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# Person ID Last Name First Name Birth Date Death Date Living note Tree
51 I61550    Clarice   Abt 1115  Abt 1135  Died Young  tree1 
52 I59378    Claude  13 Oct 1499  20 Jul 1524  Saint Denis  tree1 
53 I59436    Clementia  Yes, date unknown  Yes, date unknown  [royalfam.ged]

Regarding the identity of Clemence, mother of Joan of England, wife of
Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales, the following information
might be helpful.

The actual entry in the Tewksbury annals which pertains to Joan's
mother, "Queen" Clemence, reads as follows:

Year: A.D. 1236

Obiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini filia regis
Johannis et regina Clemencie, iii. kal. Aprilis."

[Died lady Joan lady of Wales, wife of Llywelyn, daughter of King John
and Queen Clemence, 3 Kal. April."

Reference: Henry Richard Luard, Annales Monastici, 1 (1864): 101.

In this case, the monk was evidently indulging in medieval legalism.
Before her death, Joan had been legitimized by the Pope. On the
basis of that legitimization, the Tewksbury monk evidently chose to
elevate Joan's mother to the status of Queen, as if Joan's mother had
been King John's wife. In point of fact, King John and Joan's mother,
Clemence, were never married. By referring to Joan's mother as
"Queen" Clemence, the monk who recorded Joan's death was showing his
extreme respect for Joan, not attempting to alter the facts.

The item from the Patent Rolls cited by Robert Battle below involving
Joan's daughter, Susanna, was located by me some years ago.
Basically, the document states that King Henry III is entrusting the
care of his niece, Susanna (daughter of Llywelyn and Joan), to the
care of Nicholas de Verdun and Clemence, his wife.

On the surface, there would be nothing to suggest any connection
between Susanna of Wales and Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun.
However, Susanna was almost certainly being held in England as a
hostage as a guarantee for good behavior on the part of her father,
Llywelyn. Her brother, David, for instance, was being held hostage in
England at the time of the Magna Carta.

My experience with foreign hostages has been that they were often
placed with their English relatives, if any were available. To verify
that, one has only to consult the long list of Scottish hostages in
this period, who I discovered were repeatedly placed with their
English kinsmen. Being a hostage in this period basically meant the
person was under house arrest. Under such circumstances, it is easy
to understand why such persons were placed with their own relations.

The fact that Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun, is mentioned at
all catches the eye. Under normal circumstances, the wife would not
be named. The fact that she was so named suggests she had some
interest in Susanna. Given the fact we know that Susanna's
grandmother was named Clemence, it becomes readily apparent that
Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun, was Susanna's own grandmother.
That this is true is underscored by the fact that when the king later
granted Susanna's care to another individual, no mention was made of
the other man's wife. Even more important, the name Clemence is
extremely rare among English noble women of this period. The fact
that anyone named Clemence would be associated with Susanna is
important.

As for the identity of Clemence de Verdun, Paget shows that she was
the daughter of Roger de Dauntsey, of Wiltshire. It is interesting
that Clemence would hail from Wiltshire. Over the years, I've
noticed that King John had a strong attachment to Wiltshire, it being
the home of his most trusted allies, the Longespee, Marshal, and
Basset families and Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Earl of Essex. Surely, given
that his strongest supporters were all Wiltshire people suggests that
King John spent much time there.

Back in 1992, I shared my findings on Clemence de Dauntsey with Gary
Boyd Roberts, who in turn placed her name as Joan's mother in his
book, Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, published in 1993. On page
305, he notes that I was then planning an article on Princess Joan and
her mother, Clemence. Due to circumstances beyond my control, the
article was never published as scheduled. However, I do plan to
include a discussion of Clemence de Dauntsey in my forthcoming book,
Plantagenet Ancestry, 3rd edition. For those interested in obtaining
a copy of the book, please contact me privately at my e-mail address
below.

In this case, I think the evidence is suggestive but not conclusive
that Clemence de Dauntsey was Princess Joan's mother. Perhaps with a
little prodding of the records, the desired conclusive evidence of Joan's parentage will ye t be
located.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com 
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54 I45822    CONSTANCE  Abt 986  25 Jul 1032  Abbaye De Saint Denis  tree1 
55 I62091    Constance   12 Jun 1166  31 Aug 1201  (5-1166)  tree1 
56 I45838    Constanza Alfonsez   Aft 1140  4 Oct 1160  St Denis  tree1 
57 I44726    Constanza Perez  1354  24 Mar 1394  [King Penrose Family.GED]

[WilliamKingAncestry.ged]

W Betham: Genealogical Tables Tab 235 
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58 I66185    Daughter  12 May 1684  13 May 1684  St. James Palace  tree1 
59 I58740    Daughter  7 Oct 1794  7 Oct 1794  Stillborn  tree1 
60 I61804    Donald     1085  UNMD  tree1 
61 I40252    Doris      [Winch.FTW]

[Winch10.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch [Winch11.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch  
tree1 
62 I58778    Edgar  14 Sep 1667  8 Jun 1671  St. James Palace  tree1 
63 I58778    Edgar  14 Sep 1667  8 Jun 1671  Westminster Abbey  tree1 
64 I66531    ELANOR  1244  24 Nov 1290  Westminster Abbey  tree1 
65 I66531    ELANOR  1244  24 Nov 1290  Near Grantham  tree1 
66 I66531    ELANOR  1244  24 Nov 1290  [King Penrose Family.GED]

[WilliamKingAncestry.ged]

M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 26
M L Call: The Royal Ancestry Bible Vol 1: 21 
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67 I58162    ELBEANOR ALIENOR  1122  31 Mar 1204  On page 151 of Eleanor of Aquitaine by Alison Weir she says "On 10 January 1156, having spen t more than a year in England, Henry crossed from Dover to Wissant and returned to Normandy to attend to the affairs of his continental fiefs, leaving Richard de Lucy as regent and placi ng Eleanor and their children under the guardianship of Archbishop Theobald and John of Salis bury; the Pipe Rolls show that the Queen was paid allowances for the two boys, and also recor d that she was supporting in her household her sister Petronilla and their two bastard brothe rs, William and Joscelin. During the period 1154-8 there are thirty-six entries relating to E xchequer payments to William, as well as regular payments of generous sums for wine for Petro nilla."

She says that Petronilla was married to Raoul, count of Vermandois and that he died in 1151 . She further says that Petronilla's date of death is not recorded.

Fontevraud is the place of death and burial listed in the royal92.ged with the date of death as April 01, 1204.

Sources:
royal92.ged, Date of Import: Feb 10, 2006.
royalfam.ged, Date of Import: Feb 10, 2006.
Eleanor of Aquitaine by Alison Weir: Page 151. 
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68 I61871    Eleanor  1184  10 Aug 1241  dum. - died unmarried
d.s.p. - died without issue, childless
 
tree1 
69 I60464    ELFEDA  Abt 896  961  [royalfam.ged]

http://history.vineyard.net//allen/Web%20Cards/WC12/WC12_442.HTM 
tree1 
70 I61318    Elisabeth   14 Aug 1727  6 Dec 1759  Saint Denis  tree1 
71 I61538    Elizabeth  1678    St. James Palace  tree1 
72 I46319    Elizabeth Charlotte  1652  1722  Saint Denis  tree1 
73 I65959    Emich   18 Jan 1866  18 Jul 1939  [royalfam.ged]

http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Leiningen.html 
tree1 
74 I44841    Emma  Abt 982  6 Mar 1052  St Martin's Church  tree1 
75 I37590    Enus      [Winch.FTW]

[Winch3.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch [Winch4.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch [Winch6.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch [Winch8.ged]

GEDCOM provided by Carolyn Proffitt Winch  
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76 I45942    ERMENTRUDE   27 Sep 830  6 Oct 869  Saint Denis  tree1 
77 I46992    Ferdinand  10 Mar 1452  23 Jan 1516  [royalfam.ged]

Famous for driving the Moors out of Spain in 1492 and then sending Columbus to discover Ameri ca. 
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78 I61030    Fernando  29 Sep 1402  5 Jun 1443  (unmd)  tree1 
79 I65460    Fernando  13 Oct 1824  2 Jan 1861  (unmd)  tree1 
80 I59327    Filippa   1432  1444  (12-1444)  tree1 
81 I58188    Francis  19 Jan 1544  5 Dec 1560  Saint Denis  tree1 
82 I59525    Francis  1870  1910  Kensington Palace  tree1 
83 I65595    Francisca Josefa   30 Jan 1699  15 Jun 1736  (unmd)  tree1 
84 I65518    Francisco   25 May 1691  21 Jul 1742  (unmd)  tree1 
85 I46887    Frederik  01 Jul 1534  04 Apr 1588  Roskilde Cathedral  tree1 
86 I46887    Frederik  01 Jul 1534  04 Apr 1588  Antvorslev, Castle  tree1 
87 I46838    George of Denmark  21 Apr 1653  28 Oct 1708  Westminster Abbey  tree1 
88 I63008    Godiva   Abt. 980  10 Sep 1067  [royalfam.ged]

One of the most famous women of history.
Lady Godiva, who rode naked through the streets of Coventry, as a protest against taxation.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa/godiva.html
http://www.abacom.com/~jkrause/godiva.html

Elizabeth II (Alexandra Mary) WINDSOR Queen of England is the 31st great granddaughter of La dy GODIVA Countess Of Mercia.

Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia is the 26th great grandmother of Thomas JEFFERSON.

So-called President George W. BUSH is the 33rd great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mer cia.

Nikolas II ROMANOV Czar of Russia was the 30th great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Me rcia.

Louis XVI, King Of FRANCE was the 27th great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia.

Diana SPENCER was the 32nd great granddaughter of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia.

Juan Carlos DE BORBON King of Spain is the 32nd great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Me rcia.

Simeon KOBURGOTSKI King and Prime Minister of Bulgaria is the 33rd great grandson of Lady GO DIVA Countess Of Mercia.

She was a religious benefactress who---according to tradition when her husband Leofric, Ear l of Mercia, imposed a heavy tax on the townsfolk of Coventry (1040)---obtained its remissio n by riding naked through the market place. The story occurs in Roger of Wendover (1235). Som e writers assert that Lady Godiva ordered all to remain indoors, which they did except for th e famous Peeping Tom, but he is a later addition to the story.

An explanation of the Lady Godiva story could well be the survival of a Celtic pagan celebrat ion in honour of the goddess-spirit, Epona. To celebrate the passage of the Moon accross th e night sky and, at the same time, the change from winter to spring, a tradition of a naked l ady with long hair riding on a white horse had survived. Quite possibly Leofric, Earl of Merc ia, had dared his wife, Godiva, to take the local girl's place in the procession. 
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89 I65897               
90 I3239    Hazel  18 Jan 1908  21 Mar 1979  King.GEDCOM. Electronic. Date of Import: December13, 2001.

Line 17955 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BURI PLAC

CLOYD'S CREEK CEM.,BLOUNT CO.Tennessee 
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91 I47125    Helen   15 Nov 1950    [royalfam.ged]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Elena_of_Romania 
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92 I58705    Henrietta  13 Jan 1669  15 Nov 1669  Westminster Abbey  tree1 
93 I58705    Henrietta  13 Jan 1669  15 Nov 1669  St. James Palace  tree1 
94 I65618    Henriette  30 Nov 1870  28 Mar 1948  Twin  tree1 
95 I46889    Henriette Marie  26 Nov 1609  31 Aug 1669  [royalfam.ged]

1609-69, queen consort of CHARLES I of England, daughter of HENRY IV ofFrance. Her dealings w ith the pope, foreign powers, and army officersincreased Parliament's suspicion of Charles an d fear of a Catholicuprising, and helped to precipitate (1642) the ENGLISH CIVIL WAR.

Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect 
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96 I60399    Henrique  4 Mar 1394  13 Nov 1460  (unmd)  tree1 
97 I65416    Henry  9 Aug 1387  31 Aug 1422  Westminster Abbey  tree1 
98 I65402    Henry  6 Dec 1421  Abt. 27 May 1471  Windsor Castle  tree1 
99 I65402    Henry  6 Dec 1421  Abt. 27 May 1471  [royalfam.ged]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VI_of_England 
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100 I58548    Henry  19 Sep 1551  2 Aug 1589  Saint Denis  tree1 


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