Notes:

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England was a Catholic country until Henry VIII founded the Church of England. He founded th e Church of England because the Pope would not annul his marriage to Katherine of Aragon. Th e grounds were that Katherine had already been espoused to his brother, Arthur, so Henry fel t the marriage should be annulled because it never should have taken place. That it was jus t Henry's ruse to dispose of his wife so he could take another, is beside the point. The Pop e would not grant the annulment. So Henry divorced Katherine by civil law, by which his daugh ter, Mary, was declared illegitimate, and Henry became Head of the Church of England, just a s the Queen is today.

Renia
renia.s@ntlworld.com

Henry married Catherine of AragonPalace, Greenwich, Kent, England. Catherine (daughter of King of Aragon-Castile-Leon Ferdinand, (V) II and Queen of Castile and Leon Isabel, I) was born on 15 Dec 1485 in , Alcalba De Henares, Madrid, Spain; died on 07 Jan 1536 in Kimbolton Castle, Huntingdonshire, England; was buried on 29 Jan 1536 in Peterborough Abbey, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

[royalfam.ged]

Catherine of Aragon was a Spanish princess (her badge shows a pomegranate - a symbol from Spa in).
She was the daughter of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain, and was ori ginally married to
Henry's brother Arthur. Henry married Catherine to maintain the alliance with S pain after Arthur died,
leaving Catherine a widow. This marriage was organized by Henry VII a short tim e before he died, but
took place after his death in 1509, when Henry was almost 18 and Catherine wa s 23.

After twenty years of marriage, she had only given birth to one girl, Mary, lat er to become known as Bloody Mary (although she had many miscarriages and still-births in tha t time). As Henry VIII needed a son to provide a male heir to the throne, and as his advisor s deemed Catherine to be past the age of child-birth, Henry tried to persuade her to becom e a Nun. Catherine refused, and after two years of arguments with the Pope, Henry
created a new Archbishop (Thomas Cranmer) who was prepared to declare the marriage
annulled in 1532. Catherine was then banished from the Court and separated from her daughter .
It is said that she died of a broken heart, four years later.

http://www.larmouth.demon.co.uk/sarah-jayne/wives/wives.html

Notes:

[tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website[royalfam.ged]

According to contemporary records, Queen Elizabeth I of England (died
1603) was related to King Henry IV of France (died 1610) [Reference:
Thomas Rymer, Foedera 16 (1727): 20 (Henry IV, King of France, styled
"cousin")].

Were Queen Elizabeth I and King Henry IV related in the 5th degree at
least on one side? The answer: Yes, twice, in fact. Below please
find two charts which show their common descent from the French royal
family and also from the Counts of Saint Pol. In both instances,
Queen Elizabeth I and King Henry IV are 4th cousins, once removed.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

I. Descent from Charles VI, King of France:

Charles VI, King of France
___________________/__________________
/ /
Charles VII, King of France Katherine of France
/ =Owen Tudor
/ /
Madeleine of France Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond
= Gaston de Foix /
/ /
Catherine de Foix Henry VII, King of England
=Jean d'Albret, Count of /
Penthievre /
/ /
Henri II, King of Navarre Henry VIII, King Of England
/ /
Jeanne d'Albret, Queen of Navarre Elizabeth I, Queen of England
=Antoine de Bourbon
/
Henry IV, King of France

II. Descent from Pierre de Luxembourgh, Count of Saint Pol:

Pierre de Luxembourgh
Count of Saint Pol
__________________________/________
/ /
Louis de Luxembourgh Jacquette de Luxembourgh
Count of Luxembourgh = Richard Wydeville, Earl Rivers
/ /
Pierre de Luxembourgh Elizabeth Wydeville
Count of Saint Pol = Edward IV, King of England
/ /
Marie de Luxembourgh Elizabeth Plantagenet
= Francois de Bourbon = Henry VII, King of England
/ /
Charles de Bourbon Henry VIII, King of England
Duke of Vendome /
/ /
Antoine de Bourbon Elizabeth I, Queen of England
King of Navarre
/
Henry IV, King of France

Birth:
Pembroke Castle

Buried:
Westminster Abbey, Henry VII Chapel

Died:
Richmond Palace, Shene, Near Richmond

HENRY married Lady of York, Queen of England ELIZABETH PLANTAGENET on 18 Jan 1457 in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England. ELIZABETH (daughter of Lady Woodville of York Elizabeth Woodville and King Edward IV of England and France Edward Plantagenet, IV) was born on 11 Feb 1446 in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England; was christened in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England; died on 11 Feb 1503 in Middlesex, London, London, England; was buried on 24 Feb 1503 in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

[royalfam.ged]

http://tudorhistory.org/people/eyork/

Birth:
Westminster Palace

Christened:
Westminster Palace

Buried:
Henry VII Chapel, Westminster Abbey

Died:
Tower Of London

Notes:

[royalfam.ged]

Famous for driving the Moors out of Spain in 1492 and then sending Columbus to discover Ameri ca.

Ferdinand married Queen of Castile and Leon Isabel, I on 19 Oct 1469 in Valladolid, Valladolid, Castilla-Leon, Spain. Isabel (daughter of King of Castile and Leon Juan, II and Queen of Castile Izabel) was born on 22 Apr 1451 in Madrigal De Las Altas, Torres, Avila, Spain; died on 26 Nov 1504 in Castillo De La Mota, Medina Del Campo, Valladolid, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

[tudors.ged]

His body was removed in 1536 to St David's Cathedral.


Buried:
St David's Cathedral

Edmund married Countess of Richmond MARGARET BEAUFORT on 01 Nov 1455. MARGARET (daughter of 1st Duke of Somerset John Beaufort and MARGARET BEAUCHAMP) was born on 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1509 in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England; was buried in 1509 in Westminster, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

[tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website

Buried:
Westminster Abbey, Henry VII Chapel

Notes:

Buried:
St George's Chapel

Died:
Bermondsey Abbey

Elizabeth married King Edward IV of England and France Edward Plantagenet, IV on 01 May 1464 in Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire, England. Edward (son of Duke of York Richard Plantagenet and Lady Cecily Neville) was born on 28 Apr 1442 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; was christened in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France; died on 09 Apr 1483 in Westminster, Middlesex, London, London, England; was buried on 18 Apr 1483 in Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

[royalfam.ged]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_IV_of_England

From: royalancestry@msn.com (Douglas Richardson)

A few days ago, I posted a list of the known illegitimate children of Edward IV, King of Engl and (died 1483). Since posting, I've been contacted by two newsgroup members each of whom ha s added a new potential illegitimate child of King Edward IV. On my own, I've found addition al sources for two of the previously identified illegitimate children. I've also found a ref erence to yet another alleged illegitimate daughter in a late visitation who reputedly married into the Musgrave family. I haven't included that child in the list below, as I haven't ye t confirmed that such a child and marriage occurred.

If anyone has anything to add to the information below or possesses any information on a poss ible illegitimate daughter who married a Musgrave, please post that information here on the n ewsgroup or contact me at my e-mail address below.

Many thanks to Peter Sutton and James Trabue for sharing their information with me.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com

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List of Illegitimate Children of King Edward IV

Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by an unknown mistress,
possibly Elizabeth Lucy:

i. ELIZABETH PLANTAGENET, married before 1477 THOMAS LUMLEY, Knt., son
and heir apparent of George Lumley, Knt., Lord Lumley, by Elizabeth,
daughter and heiress of Roger Thornton, Esq. They had four sons,
Richard [Lord Lumley], John, George, and Roger, Esq., and three
daughters, Anne (wife of Robert Ogle, 4th Lord Ogle), Sibyl (wife of
William Hilton, Knt., de jure 9th Lord Hylton), and Elizabeth (wife of
Robert Cresswell, Esq.). SIR THOMAS LUMLEY was living 27 Oct. 1495,
and died prior to 1507. Descendants (not traced). [Note: Additional
evidence of Elizabeth's parentage may be seen in the papal
dispensation granted in 1489 for Elizabeth's son, Richard Lumley, to
marry Anne Conyers, they being related in the [3rd and] 4th degree of
kindred. A dispensation was needed for this marriage, as the two
parties were both descended from Ralph Neville, K.G., 1st Earl of
Westmorland, and his wife, Joan Beaufort (see Testamenta Eboracensia 3
(Surtees Soc., vol. 45) (1865): 355)]. Collins-Brydges, Peerage of
England 3 (1812): 703 (citing MS. E. 6, f. 5, b. in Offic. Arm.). R.
Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 139
(Lumley monument in Chester-le-Street, co. Durham church: " ... inde
pater efficitur illius Thomae qui ex magni Regis Edovardi quarti filia
naturali, Richardum susceperat ..."), 140 (monumental inscription at
Chester-le-Street: "Sir Thomas Lumley, Knight, sonne of George Lord
Lumley, maried Elizabeth, daughter naturel to Kinge Edwarde the
fourth, and he died in the life of his father, and had issue Richard
Lord Lumley") (Elizabeth's arms: 1. France and England; 2. a plain
cross of Ulster; 3. as 2; 4. barry of six, on a chief three pallets,
between two esquires' bastions, dexter and sinister, an inescutcheon
Argent, Mortimer, over all a bar sinister), 162-164 (Lumley chart).
Surtees Soc. 41 (1862): 27 (1530 Vis. Durham) (Lumley pedigree:
"Thomas Lumley, son and heyre to George, maried Elisabeth, bastard
doughter to Kyng Edward the iiijth"). R. Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of
the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 163-164. H.S.P. 16 (1881):
189-190 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas Lord Lomley
son & heyr to George = Elsabeth bastard doughter to Kyng Edward the
Fourth"). J. Foster, Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of the
County Palatine of Durham (1887), pg. 216 (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas
Lumley, son and heire = Elizabeth, bastard dau. of Edward IV"). C.P.
7 (1929): 30 (sub Hylton); 8 (1932): 274 (sub Lumley); 10 (1945):
33-34. TAG 50 (1974): 81-86. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle Letters (1981)
[citing Harleian MS. 4033, f. 21 (23) v; Leland's Itinerary VI, f.
63]. Chris Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval
England (1984), pp. 160-161,179.

Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by a mistress, Elizabeth
Wayte:

i. ARTHUR PLANTAGENET (otherwise ARTHUR WAYTE), K.G., King’s
Spear, Esquire of the Body, Sheriff of Hampshire, Vice-Admiral of
England, Trier of Petitions in Parliament, Governor of Calais, Warden
of the Cinque Ports, Privy Councillor, born say 1475 (presumed to be
“my Lord the Bastard” mentioned in an Exchequer account
dated 1477, first occurs as an adult in 1501). He married (1st) 12
Nov. 1511 ELIZABETH GREY, suo jure Baroness Lisle, widow of Edmund
Dudley, Esq. (beheaded 18 Aug. 1510), and daughter and heiress of
Edward Grey, Knt., Viscount Lisle, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth,
daughter of John Talbot, Knt., Viscount Lisle. They had three
daughters, Frances (wife of John Basset and Thomas Monke), Elizabeth
(wife of Francis Jobson, Knt), and Bridget (wife of William Carden,
Knt.). In 1514 he was captain of the Vice-Admiral's ship "Trinity
Sovereign." He attended the King at the Field of Cloth of Gold in
1520. In consequence of his marriage, he was created 25 Apr. 1523
Viscount Lisle. In 1528 he purchased the manors of Segenworth, Chark,
Lee, Sutton, West Stratton, etc., Hampshire from his cousin, John
Wayte, Esq., of Titchfield. Arthur married (2nd) in 1529 Honor
Grenville, widow of John Basset, Knt. (died 31 Jan. 1522/9), and
daughter of Thomas Grenville, Knt., by his 1st wife, Isabel, daughter
of Otes Gilbert, Knt. They had no issue. He was imprisoned in the
Tower of London on suspicion of treason 19 May 1540. SIR ARTHUR
PLANTAGENET, Viscount Lisle, died there 3 Mar. 1541/2. His widow,
Honor, was buried at Logan, Cornwall 30 Apr. 1566. Modern descendants
(not traced). J. Burke, General & Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages
... Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance (1831), pp. 433,513-514. G.F.
Beltz, Memorials of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (1841), pg.
clxxii. H.S.P. 2 (1870): 74-75 (1619 Vis. Leicester) (Gray pedigree:
"Elizab. [Gray] Nupta Edm. Dudley postea Arthur Plantagenet"); 16
(1881): 308-310 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Talbot pedigree: "Elsabeth
[Talbot] doughter & sole heyre [1] = Edmond Dudley on of the Prevy
Consell to Kyng Henry 7th., [2]= Arthur Plantagenet bastard son to
Edward IV. 2 husband"). J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the County of
Devon (1895), pp. 46-47,569. D.N.B. 15 (1909): 1285-1287 (biog. of
Arthur Plantagenet). List of Early Chan. Proc. 5 (1912):
288,358,465,472.473; 6 (1922): 109,134. C.L. Scofield, Life and Reign
of Edward the Fourth 2 (1923): 56,161. C.P. 8 (1932): 63-68 (sub
Lisle). Cal. of Ancient Deeds - Series B Pt. 3 (List & Index Soc.,
vol. 113) (1975): B.10780, B.12180. Ancient Deeds Series BB (List &
Index Soc., vol. 137) (1977), pp. 80-81,83,90. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle
Letters 2 (1981): 63 (Arthur Plantagenet styled "cousin" by Margaret
Pole, Countess of Salisbury); 1 (1981): 481, 4{1981): 140 (instances
of Henry Pole, Lord Montagu, styled "cousin" to Arthur Plantagenet).
Exchequer Ancient Deeds - DD Series (List & Index Soc., vol. 200)
(1983), pp. 193,207. C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of
Medieval England (1984), pp. 158,161-174.

Alleged illegitimate children of Edward IV of England, by an unknown
mistress (or mistresses), _____:

i. GRACE PLANTAGENET, said to be present in 1492 on the funeral barge
of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, widow of King Edward IV. C. Ross,
Edward IV (1974), pg. 316, foonote 2 (citing BM Arundel MS. 26, ff.
29v-30v). C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval
England (1984), pp. 158,161-174.

ii. _____ PLANTAGENET (daughter), married (as his 1st wife) JOHN
AUDLEY (or TUCHET), younger son of John Audley (or Tuchet), Knt., 6th
Lord Audley, Lord Treasurer of England, by Anne, daughter of Thomas
Echingham, Knt. They had no issue. Collections for a History of
Staffordshire n.s. 12 (1909): 229. MS. pedigree of Audley family
dated 1618 on file at the William SaltCollection at the William Salt
Library in Stafford, England. (These citations kindly provided by
Peter Sutton).

iii. MARY PLANTAGENET, married after 1485 (as his 2nd wife) HENRY
HARMAN, of Ellam (in Crayford), Kent, Clerk of the Crown to King Henry
VII, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Harman. HENRY HARMAN left a will
dated 1501, proved 1502 (P.C.C., 15 Blamyr), naming his deceased wife,
Agnes, his living wife, Mary, and eleven children, George, William,
Thomas, Roger, John, Henry, Robert, Elizabeth (wife of _____ Sparke),
Alice, Beatrice, and Anne. The maternity of the children is
uncertain, but at least the two youngest sons were by Henry Harman's
last wife, Mary, as indicated by Henry's will. Misc. Gen. et Her. 4th
ser. 2 (1908): 227-228 (Harman pedigree) (no identification of wives).
H.S.P. 74 (1923): 61-62 (1574 Vis. Kent) (Harman pedigree: "Henry
Harman Clarke of ye Crowne vnto H: 7 ... This man [Henry Harman] was
H: 7 man to whome he gaue the clarkeship of the Crowne and with all
gaue him the Crest belowe*, depick[t]ed one his armes which Crist was
giuen him after hee had maried with E: 4 daughter") (The latter
citation kindly supplied by James Trabue).

Below is a list of the illegitimate children of King Edward IV of
England taken from variety of sources. The list includes no new
names, but I've commented on additional evidence which appears to
prove the parentage of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Lumley. Gary Boyd
Roberts's useful book, RD 500, indicates that there are American
descendants of Elizabeth Lumley.

There seems to be confusion in surviving records between King Edward
IV's mistresses, Dame Elizabeth Lucy and Elizabeth Wayte. I suspect
the two women were separate and distinct individuals. King Edward IV
is alleged to have had issue by Elizabeth Lucy prior to his marriage
to Queen Elizabeth Wydeville in 1464. I presume that issue was King
Edward IV's bastard daughter, Elizabeth Lumley, who married in or
before 1477. Elizabeth Wayte's son, Arthur, on the other hand,
doesn't occur in records as an adult until 1501 and didn't marry until
1511. This suggests a rather wide gap in ages between the two
bastards, Elizabeth Lumley and Arthur Plantagenet. My best guess is
that Elizabeth Lumley was born say 1460/2 and that Arthur Plantagenet
was born say 1475.

If anyone has any corrections or additions to the list below, I'd
appreciate it if they would post them here on the newsgroup.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com

Christened:
Rouen Cathedral

Buried:
St George's Chapel

Died:
Westminster Palace

Juan married Juana Enriquez on 01 Apr 1444 in Torrelobation, Valladolid, Spain. Juana (daughter of Fadrique Enriquez and Mariana Fernandez De Cordoba) was born about 1425 in Torrelobation, Valladolid, Spain; died on 13 Feb 1468 in Zaragoza, Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Juan married Queen of Castile Izabel in Aug 1447 in Madrigalejo, CAceres, Extremadura, Spain. Izabel (daughter of Prince of Portugal And The Algarves Jodao and Princess of Braganza Izabel) was born about 1426 in Lisboa, Lisboa, Portugal; died on 15 Aug 1496 in Arbevalo, bavila, Spain; was buried in Karthauserkl, Miraflores, Burgos, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]