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# Person ID Last Name First Name Birth Date Death Date Living note Tree
8251 I36497  Lindsey  Lonnie Wilbur  25 Jan 1918  11 Apr 1994  [Winch.FTW]

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8252 I40518  Lindsey  Margaret Matilda  Sep 1874    [Winch.FTW]

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8253 I37462  Lindsey  Martha  26 Feb 1868  28 Dec 1900  [Winch.FTW]

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8254 I37469  Lindsey  Martha Ann  22 Oct 1894  06 Mar 1948  [Winch.FTW]

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8255 I43370               
8256 I38279  Lindsey  Mattie      [Winch.FTW]

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8257 I34087  Lindsey  Nancy  24 Apr 1879    [Winch.FTW]

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8258 I43379  Lindsey  Orville Max  1908    [Winch.FTW]

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8259 I43348  Lindsey  Ottis Howard  27 Nov 1897  15 Jul 1963  [Winch.FTW]

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8260 I43381  Lindsey  Paul C.  30 Nov 1909  30 Nov 1909  [Winch.FTW]

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8261 I40422  Lindsey  Phoebe Jane  1873    [Winch.FTW]

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8262 I36442  Lindsey  Rachael Lucinda  1867    [Winch.FTW]

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8263 I43373  Lindsey  Ray Dean      [Winch.FTW]

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8264 I37108  Lindsey  Rita  10 Sep 1912  22 Aug 1932  [Winch.FTW]

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8265 I43349  Lindsey  Roy C.      [Winch.FTW]

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8266 I37013  Lindsey  Rupert  09 Jan 1907  09 Jan 1907  [Winch.FTW]

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8267 I37676  Lindsey  Sarah  09 May 1861    [Winch.FTW]

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8268 I40421  Lindsey  Sarah  Aug 1881  1966  [Winch.FTW]

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8269 I21274  Lindsey  Sofia  09 Nov 1877    King.GEDCOM. Electronic. Date of Import: December13, 2001.

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8270 I43363  Lindsey  Stanley  1907    [Winch.FTW]

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8271 I43380  Lindsey  Troy      [Winch.FTW]

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8272 I43361  Lindsey  Vaneva  1903    [Winch.FTW]

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8273 I37203  Lindsey  Walter Gordan  Feb 1903    [Winch.FTW]

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8274 I43378  Lindsey  William Alvin  03 Mar 1906  19 May 1977  [Winch.FTW]

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8275 I31857  Lindsey  William Eli  03 Jun 1873  09 May 1925  [Winch.FTW]

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8276 I40332  Lindsey  William Grave  10 Apr 1846  06 May 1931  [Winch.FTW]

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8277 I6408  Lindsey  _____  Abt 1843    King.GEDCOM. Electronic. Date of Import: December13, 2001.

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8278 I40861  Linethicum  Robert A.      [Winch.FTW]

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8279 I43588  Linger  _____      [Winch.FTW]

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8280 I41628  Linville  Caltha Irene  22 May 1838  29 May 1909  [Winch.FTW]

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8281 I41195  Linville  Clifford      [Winch.FTW]

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8282 I31952  Lipps  Nancy      King.GEDCOM. Electronic. Date of Import: December13, 2001.

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8283 I42573  Little  Allie      [Winch.FTW]

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8284 I42596  Little  Aloween      [Winch.FTW]

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8285 I42591  Little  Ballard      [Winch.FTW]

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8286 I42597  Little  Dallie      [Winch.FTW]

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8287 I42594  Little  Draxie      [Winch.FTW]

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8288 I42575  Little  Ida      [Winch.FTW]

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8289 I42598  Little  Ishmel      [Winch.FTW]

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8290 I37971  Little  James Cyrus  27 May 1917  3 Mar 1987  [Winch.FTW]

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8291 I36284  Little  Lucille      [Winch.FTW]

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8292 I42592  Little  Luinda      [Winch.FTW]

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8293 I37662  Little  Maude      [Winch.FTW]

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8294 I36569  Littleton  Bertha Elise      [Winch.FTW]

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8295 I36570  Littleton  William Robert      [Winch.FTW]

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8296 I37354  Lively  Herbert      [Winch.FTW]

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Sources:
Smoky Mountain Ancestral Quest, http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f003/f44/a0034485.htm.
'Smoky Mountain Clans, Volume 2', Donald B. Reagan, 1983, p 30. 
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8297 I38597  Livingston  Frances  02 Sep 1875  26 Feb 1955  [Winch.FTW]

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8298 I67654  LLEWELYN  ELEN VERCH  Abt. 1206  Bef. 24 Oct 1253  [royalfam.ged]

You have asked the $64,000 question. You have the two Helens wrong. The Helen
that married [1] John le Scot and m[2] Robert de Quincey was the daughter of
Joan. The other Helen is not a proven daughter of Llywelyn at all.

You have assigned Gwladys to Joan instead of Tangwystl -- and I think that is
fair. It is 50/50 at best that you are right -- and with Joan's lands going
to Gwladys family and Gwladys dying at Windsor -- and the Mortimer genealogy
going through Joan to William the Conqueror in a 14th century manuscript
tradition, I would say the weight of the slim facts favor Joan over the Welsh
mistress. Since you have to enter a mother, I would keep it that way. I will
change my personal database from Tangwystl to Joan on the basis of this
discussion.

From: KHF333@aol.com

Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales, and his lawful wife, Joan, had several legitimat e children, among them being Ellen, wife successively of John of Scotland, Earl of Chester an d Huntingdon, and Robert de Quincy, Knt. Ellen's place as a legitimate daughter of Joan is p roven by an entry in Calendar of Close Rolls, 1234-1237 (1908), pp. 538-539, where Countess E llen is styled "our niece" [nepte nostra] by Henry III, King of England.

Recently, however, I encountered further evidence which supports blood kinship between Counte ss Ellen and the English royal family. Ellen had two surviving daughters by her marriage t o Robert de Quincy, one being Hawise de Quincy, wife of Baldwin Wake. The record below state s specifically that Hawise de Quincy was of the "consanguinity" (bloodline) of King Edward I:

"Date: 18 Feb. 1282

Order [by King Edward I] to the sheriff of Lincoln to levy Ð100 from the goods late of Baldwi n Wak, deceased, by view of Aubrey de Wintelbiry, and deliver the same to Hawise, late his wi fe, for the expenses of his burial, and to levy also Ð40 therefrom by view of the same Aubre y and deliver them to her by reason of her consanguinity."

[Calendar of Fine Rolls, 1 (1911): 159].

Hawise de Quincy, wife of Baldwin Wake, and King Edward I were first cousins first removed, t hey both being descendants of King John.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
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8299 I63137  Llewelyn  Gruffydd Ap  Abt 1011  05 Aug 1063  [royalfam.ged]

As a youth he was slow and listless but grew into a courageous and ambitious leader who won G wynedd and Powyss by battle in 1039 and defeated the Mercians. He contested with Gruffydd, so n of Rhydderch ab Iestyn, over Deheubarth; but by 1055 he was the king of all Wales. About 10 56 he married Ealdgyth, daughter of Aelfgar, Earl of Mercia, and they became the parents of t hree children.

There was a lengthy struggle with Harold Godwinson and, when Harold attacked his court at Rhu ddlan through the treachery of his own men, Gruffydd ap Llywelyn was killed in 1063. His wido w then married Harold Godwinson who, as King Harold II of England, in turn was killed in 106 6 in the Battle of Hastings. 
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8300 I45252  LLEWELYN  GWLADYS VERCH  Abt 1205  1251  [royalfam.ged]

Llywelyn did not marry Joan until 1205 at the EARLIEST, or 1206, if you believe more detaile d sources. Llywelyn did not receive the final (third) letter from the Pope declaring his bet rothal to the daughter of
the King of Man to be void until 1205. Giving a year for conception and birth, if one assume d Gwladys were daughter of Joan, she could not have been born earlier than 1206 or 1207. I f she were older than eight or nine years old in 1215, she could not have been daughter of Jo an. As I stated before, the marriage to Reginald de Braose in 1215 was one of political expe diency, and not one where the were waiting for the girl to come of age (so to speak). You' d be relying heavily on the coincidence that Gwladys happened to be in that very narrow rang e between seven (before which age she could not even have been betrothed) and eight, or nine . Then we have Joan's son and heir David being born BY 1208 (gave homage in 1229). If Joa n were indeed married in 1206, and David born in 1208 (he cannot have been born later if th e law was followed), that is an awfully tight squeeze to put Gwladys's coincidental birth the re.

I still think the claim that Gwladys was daughter of Joan, and that she therefore MUST have b een born in 1207--not before, not after--is doubtful.

"Paul C. Reed"

In answer to your question, there was a clear and unambigious statement that Gladys Dhu was t he daughter of Llywelyn and Joan in the chronicle of Adam of Usk. Adam knew the Mortimer fam ily and
presumably had access to their archives. While Adam is a late date witness and not altogethe r reliable, he is rather emphatic that Gladys was Joan's daughter.

As for another late date testimony of the Mortimer family's descent from Llywelyn, I find th e Visitation of the North prepared c. 1480-1500 states that "Roger [recte Ralph] Mortemer dux it Gladiswiscam filiam principis Wallie." [Reference: Surtees Society, vol. 144, published 19 30, pg. 3.

Presumably the point of reciting the extended Mortimer pedigree back to Prince Llywelyn is be cause the English descendants of the Mortimer family c. 1480-1500 believed that Gladys was th e legitimate daughter of Prince Llywelyn, by his wife, Joan.

Adam of Usk and the Visitation of the North aside, I believe the best evidence of Gladys Dhu' s parentage is the fact that Gladys' father, Llywelyn, released two castles which he had in f ree marriage with his wife, Joan, to Gladys' husband, Ralph de Mortimer. I posted a transcri pt of Llywelyn's charter to Ralph de Mortimer on the newsgroup. If you need help finding th e transcript, please let me know.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com

If I read this right are you saying that as there was an ongoing dispute with the Mortimers o ver Knighton and Norton, Llywelyn may have decided to cut his losses and give away the proper ties with Gwladys. The pragmatic value of such an act would have overridden the issue of he r maternity. It is my understanding that legally Llywellyn could have given the properties aw ay with the consent of Joan, anyway.

Also in 1229, Gwladys Dhu accompanied her brother as widow of Reginald de Braose for the purp ose of negotiations in London for her to become bride of Ralph Mortimer? If this is the case , we cannot draw any conclusions about her maternity from this event.

Cheers

Rosie
"Rosie Bevan"

Two major pieces of evidence point to Joan as being Gladys' mother.

[GMacGen@aol.com] Giles tells us that Peter C. Bartrum's _Welsh Genealogies_ [table Gruffud d ap Cynan 4] gives the mother of Gwladys Ddu as Tangwystl. Here is what is shown in Peter C . Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies, page 446, Gruffudd ap Cynan 4:

Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd
m Margred f. Madog (Bl ap C 3)
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Llywelyn d. 1240
(1) Joan d. King John m. 1205
(a) Tangwystl f. Llywarch Goch (LL. Ho. 1)
|
Gwladus Ddu d. 1251
(1) Reginald de Braose d. 1228
(2) Ralph II Mortimer d. 1246

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