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Matches 9,951 to 10,000 of 18,015
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| 9951 | [royalfam.ged] John Jacob Astor IV died on the Titanic in 1912. He left the main part of his fortune to hi s son William Vincent Astor, who married three times but had no children. This part of the As tor fortune ended in a philanthropic foundation and the family is no longer among the wealthi est in America. http://www.raken.com/american_wealth/encyclopedia/family.asp?code=1 | Astor, William Vincent (I63888)
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| 9952 | [royalfam.ged] Killed at the Battle of Shrewsbury on 21 Jul 1403. | Goushill, Robert (I62790)
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| 9953 | [royalfam.ged] King John's bastard son, Richard Fitz Roy, was known under several designations as follows:. Cal. of Liberate Rolls 2 (1930): 136 (Richard de Chilham styled "king';s brother"). Curia Regis Rolls 16 (1979): 115,145,169,178 (instances of being styled "Ricardus de Chilham"), 175 (styled "Ricardus Fiz le Roy"), 232 (styled "Ricardus de Warenn' filius regis Johannis"), 450 (styled "Ricardus de Warein'"); 17 (1991): 26 (styled "Ricardus filius Regis de Chileham"). One of Richard's seals which has survived calls him Richard de Warenne. Due to his various forms, I have elected to call him Richard Fitz Roy (otherwise de Warenne, also de Chilham) in the forthcoming book, Plantagenet Ancestry. Interestingly, Richard's son, Richard the younger, was known as both "de Dover" and "de Chilham" as appears below: Cal. of Liberate Rolls 2 (1930): 122 (Richard son of Richard de Chilham styled "king's nephew"), 249 (Richard de Dovor styled "king's kinsman"). As for Philip Fitz Roy, if you know of a original contemporary record which specifically refers to Philip as "Philip de Cognac," please let me know. Kindly provide your source. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah | Fitzroy, Richard (I61189)
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| 9954 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Of Romania, Margarita (I65234)
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| 9955 | [royalfam.ged] Lady Elizabeth Fitzalan is a very prolific ancestor and her descendants can be found everywhe re. Here are a few groups of descendants : Gateway ancestors to the USA Dr.Richard Palgrave Mary Palgrave Saraj Palgrave Elizabeth Palgrave Muriel Gurdon Rev. Hawte Wyatt Grace Chetwode Herbert Pelham Elizabeth Bosvile Maria Joanna Somerset Anne Humphrey William Randolph Nicholas Sewall Presidents and one Vice-President George Clinton, Vice-President Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President John Quincy Adams, 6th President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President George Herbert Bush, 41st President George Walker Bush, 43rd President Crowned Heads Elizabeth II, Queen of Great Britain Albert II, King of Belgium Michael I, King of Roumania Peter II, King of Yugoslavia Umberto II, King of Italy Simeon II, King of Bulgaria also Rachel Ward Alice Keppel Camilla Parker-Bowles Best wishes Leo van de Pas Canberra, Australia | Fitzalan, Elizabeth (I59682)
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| 9956 | [royalfam.ged] Llywelyn did not marry Joan until 1205 at the EARLIEST, or 1206, if you believe more detaile d sources. Llywelyn did not receive the final (third) letter from the Pope declaring his bet rothal to the daughter of the King of Man to be void until 1205. Giving a year for conception and birth, if one assume d Gwladys were daughter of Joan, she could not have been born earlier than 1206 or 1207. I f she were older than eight or nine years old in 1215, she could not have been daughter of Jo an. As I stated before, the marriage to Reginald de Braose in 1215 was one of political expe diency, and not one where the were waiting for the girl to come of age (so to speak). You' d be relying heavily on the coincidence that Gwladys happened to be in that very narrow rang e between seven (before which age she could not even have been betrothed) and eight, or nine . Then we have Joan's son and heir David being born BY 1208 (gave homage in 1229). If Joa n were indeed married in 1206, and David born in 1208 (he cannot have been born later if th e law was followed), that is an awfully tight squeeze to put Gwladys's coincidental birth the re. I still think the claim that Gwladys was daughter of Joan, and that she therefore MUST have b een born in 1207--not before, not after--is doubtful. "Paul C. Reed" In answer to your question, there was a clear and unambigious statement that Gladys Dhu was t he daughter of Llywelyn and Joan in the chronicle of Adam of Usk. Adam knew the Mortimer fam ily and presumably had access to their archives. While Adam is a late date witness and not altogethe r reliable, he is rather emphatic that Gladys was Joan's daughter. As for another late date testimony of the Mortimer family's descent from Llywelyn, I find th e Visitation of the North prepared c. 1480-1500 states that "Roger [recte Ralph] Mortemer dux it Gladiswiscam filiam principis Wallie." [Reference: Surtees Society, vol. 144, published 19 30, pg. 3. Presumably the point of reciting the extended Mortimer pedigree back to Prince Llywelyn is be cause the English descendants of the Mortimer family c. 1480-1500 believed that Gladys was th e legitimate daughter of Prince Llywelyn, by his wife, Joan. Adam of Usk and the Visitation of the North aside, I believe the best evidence of Gladys Dhu' s parentage is the fact that Gladys' father, Llywelyn, released two castles which he had in f ree marriage with his wife, Joan, to Gladys' husband, Ralph de Mortimer. I posted a transcri pt of Llywelyn's charter to Ralph de Mortimer on the newsgroup. If you need help finding th e transcript, please let me know. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com If I read this right are you saying that as there was an ongoing dispute with the Mortimers o ver Knighton and Norton, Llywelyn may have decided to cut his losses and give away the proper ties with Gwladys. The pragmatic value of such an act would have overridden the issue of he r maternity. It is my understanding that legally Llywellyn could have given the properties aw ay with the consent of Joan, anyway. Also in 1229, Gwladys Dhu accompanied her brother as widow of Reginald de Braose for the purp ose of negotiations in London for her to become bride of Ralph Mortimer? If this is the case , we cannot draw any conclusions about her maternity from this event. Cheers Rosie "Rosie Bevan" Two major pieces of evidence point to Joan as being Gladys' mother. [GMacGen@aol.com] Giles tells us that Peter C. Bartrum's _Welsh Genealogies_ [table Gruffud d ap Cynan 4] gives the mother of Gwladys Ddu as Tangwystl. Here is what is shown in Peter C . Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies, page 446, Gruffudd ap Cynan 4: Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd m Margred f. Madog (Bl ap C 3) | Llywelyn d. 1240 (1) Joan d. King John m. 1205 (a) Tangwystl f. Llywarch Goch (LL. Ho. 1) | Gwladus Ddu d. 1251 (1) Reginald de Braose d. 1228 (2) Ralph II Mortimer d. 1246 Kenneth Harper Finton Editor and Publisher THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION __________________________________________ HT Communications / PO Box 1401 / Arvada CO 80001 VOICE: 303-420-4888 FAX: 303-420-4845 http://HTCommunications.org/homepage.htm KHF333@AOL.com | LLEWELYN, GWLADYS VERCH (I45252)
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| 9957 | [royalfam.ged] Lost Duchies of Schleiswig and Holstein to Prussia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_IX_of_Denmark Christian's grandsons included Nicholas II of Russia, Constantine I of Greece, George V of th e United Kingdom, Christian X of Denmark and Haakon VII of Norway. He was, in the last year s of his life, named Europe's "father-in-law". Today, most of Europe's reigning and ex-reigni ng royal families are direct descendants of Christian IX. Christian died peacefully of old age at 87 in Copenhagen and was buried in Roskilde Cathedral . | King of Denmark Christian IX (I65173)
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| 9958 | [royalfam.ged] Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten was one of Britain's great war heroes. A gre at-grandson of Queen Victoria, he entered the Royal Navy in 1913. (At that time his father, P rince Louis of Battenberg--later 1st marquess of Milford-Haven;1854-1921--was first sea lord ; after the outbreak of World War I, however, he was forced to resign because of his German b irth, and he later changed the family name to Mountbatten.) While chief of British combined o perations (1942-43) in World War II, Mountbatten directed the invasion of Madagascar and comm ando raids on Norway and France. As supreme Allied commander for Southeast Asia (1943-46), h e was responsiblefor the recapture of Burma from Japan. The last viceroy of India, hesupervis ed the creation of the states of India and Pakistan in 1947. He was created Lord Mountbatte n of Burma that same year. Subsequently, he was first sea lord (1955-59). Mountbatten retire d in 1965, although he remained a confidant of Queen Elizabeth II, whose husband, Prince Phil ip, was his nephew. He died when a bomb demolished his fishing boat in waters off the northwe st coast of Ireland. A member of the Provisional wing of the Irish Republican Army was convic ted of the murder. In spite of his many achievements, the greatest legacy of Lord Mountbatten is negative. He sh ould have settled the Kashmir issue prior to the withdrawal of the British from India. Becaus e of leaving the Kashmir issue unresolved, three majors have been fought, millions have died , and there are constant threats of a new war, this one nuclear, between India and Pakistan. | Mountbatten, Earl Mountbatten Louis of Burma (I44332)
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| 9959 | [royalfam.ged] Marie Juliette Louvet (May 9, 1867 - September 24, 1930) was mistress of Prince Louis II of M onaco and was the mother of his only child, Princess Charlotte of Monaco. Known as Juliette, Louvet was the daughter of Jacques Henri Louvet (1830 - 1910) and his firs t wife, Jos©bphine Elmire Piedefer (1828-1871). She married photographer Achille Delmaet on October 6, 1885 (his best known photographs are n udes of La Goulue, a cancan dancer of the Moulin Rouge). The Delmaets were divorced on Januar y 14, 1893; they had two children, Georges (1884-1955) and Marguerite (1886-1894). Juliette Louvet became an entertainer of sorts, reportedly a cabaret singer (other sources id entify her as a laundress and a dressmaker), then was Prince Louis' lover. She gave birth t o their daughter, Charlotte, in Algeria on September 30, 1898. | Louvet, Juliette Marie (I65994)
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| 9960 | [royalfam.ged] Matilda, daughter of King Henry I of England, *was* her father's heiress. Henry had 22-24 bastards and a legitimate son, William The Aetheling, who was drowned in the Wreck of the White Ship on 25 November 1125 ---- ten years before Henry's death. So, Henry I had no surviving legitimate son to succeed to the throne. Matilda, his legitimate daughter, had married Henry V, The Holy Roman Emperor and was styled as The Empress Matilda in English, as she preferred. Her husband, Henry V died in 1125 of cancer. The couple had no issue. Matilda returned to England after the death of her husband and Henry I began to groom her for succession to the throne. She was widowed and childless as well as pretty well Germanised [read arrogant and pretentious, in English eyes], having first gone to the Continent when she was eight years old and having married Henry V when she was 11. The British nobles and bishops did not particularly cotton to this Jennie-foreigner as their future queen ---- but Henry I did his best to secure their oaths of support that they would loyally defend her claims if she outlived her father and he left no legitimate son. Matilda married Geoffrey 'le Bel' comte d'Anjou, Touraine et Maine in 1127. Now she was Brunhilde with a frog husband in the minds of many of the stalwart British nobles and bishops. Henry I died in 1135 without fathering a legitimate son. His death led to a disputed succession just as had the deaths of the two previous Norman kings of England, William I 'The Conqueror' and William II 'Rufus'. When Henry I died on 1 Dec 1135, of a surfeit of lampreys as some say, Matilda was out of pocket on the Continent. Stephen, a grandson of William The Conqueror, quickly seized the initiative and crossed to England to seize the crown where he was accepted as King by the worthies of London, whose trading connections with Stephen's lands in Boulogne helped to win them to his side. Stephen pressed on to Winchester, where his brother, Bishop Henry of Winchester, persuaded an initially reluctant Archbishop of Canterbury to crown Stephen as King, the custodian of the treasure to hand over the keys, and the magnates who were present to accept him as monarch. Some of the nobles and clerics seem to have abandoned Matilda because they construed their oath to Henry I to have held only if Henry did not give his daughter Matilda in marriage to anyone outside the Kingdom without consulting them. A Great Civil War ensued when Matilda tried to fight back and reclaim the throne in 1139. This Civil War lasted until 1153 when Stephen finally agreed to allow Matilda's son Henry to succeed him on the throne as Henry II 'Curtmantle'. Yes, the one who was married to Eleanor of Aquitaine, Richardson. Henry II also inherited his father Geoffrey's lands and titles. Geoffrey was quite a dashing figure, the Antonio Banderas of his day. | BEAUCLERC, Empress of Germany, Princess England MATILDA (I65933)
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| 9961 | [royalfam.ged] Medieval English Ancesters of Certain Americans, Carl Boyer III, p. 27 | De Ros, Ida (I63154)
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| 9962 | [royalfam.ged] N. de Baumgarten in his "Genealogies et Mariages Occidentaux des Rurikides Russes du Xe au XI IIe siecle" (Roma, 1927) states on pp. 22-26 the details of the descendants of Great Prince V sevolod I including Euphrosine. He lists her as the eldest child of Mstislav-Harald's secon d marriage in 1122 to the daughter of Dimitri Zawiditch, possadnik of Novgorod, which daughte r died after 1168. Some further details concerning this marriage can be found in Vol. XXV of the Camden Society' s 3rd Series of publications, namely: "The Chronicle of Novgorod, 1016-1471" translated & edi ted by Robert Michell & Nevill Forbes (London, 1914). It is written that Mstislav married th e still unnamed daughter sometime during 1122 in Kiev and that her father, Dmitri Zavidits, p osadnik of Novgorod, had died July 9, 1118 (p. 10). I suppose Dmitri Zavidich was probably either of Slavic or Scandinavian origin. Presumably h e come from a family of Boyars in Novgorod as he was a Posadnik of that city. Sincerely, Kelsey J. Williams | Grand Duke of Kiev MSTISLAV I (I63492)
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| 9963 | [royalfam.ged] Name Suffix: Prince http://ismaili.net/histoire/history08/history836.html http://www.samsloan.com/agakhan.htm | Khan, Prince Aly Aga (I61378)
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| 9964 | [royalfam.ged] Napoleon III (Charles-Louis-Napoleon). Originally known as Louis-Napoleon-Bonaparte, Emperor of the French; b. at Paris, 20 April, 1 808; d. at Chiselhurst, England, 6 January, 1873; third son of Louis Bonaparte, King of Holla nd and Hortense de Beauharnais, daughter of the Empress Josephine. After the fall of the First Empire, Hortense, who had been separated from her husband, took h er two sons to Geneva, Aix in Savoy, Augsburg, and then (1824) to the castle of Arenenberg i n Switzerland. Louis Napoleon had for tutor the scholar Le Bas, son of a member of the Conven tion. | Bonaparte, Louis Napoleon III (I65010)
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| 9965 | [royalfam.ged] Norris, Brereton, Weston and Smeaton were ordered by the court to be hung, cut down, disembow eled, quartered and castrated. Anne's brother Lord Rochford, was sentenced to be burned and t hen beheaded. Later the king altered their sentence to decapitation by an axe, which was carr ied out. http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/celebrity/henry_viii/ | Boleyn, Viscount George Rochford (I45706)
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| 9966 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Karim, Aga Khan IV (I62143)
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| 9967 | [royalfam.ged] One of the most famous individuals in Camilla's family tree is her great-grandmother, Alice F rederica Edmonstone Keppel, royal mistress to King Edward VII from 1898 until his death in 19 10. | Edmonstone, Alice Frederica (I66023)
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| 9968 | [royalfam.ged] One of the most famous people in the history of England. She married King Henry VIII but the n was charged by him with adultery and was tried, convicted and beheaded. However, she had gi ven birth to a girl who later became Queen Elizabeth I of England. http://www.samsloan.com/he nry8.htm http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/celebrity/henry_viii/ | Boleyn, Queen Consort Anne (I44110)
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| 9969 | [royalfam.ged] One of the most famous women of history. Lady Godiva, who rode naked through the streets of Coventry, as a protest against taxation. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa/godiva.html http://www.abacom.com/~jkrause/godiva.html Elizabeth II (Alexandra Mary) WINDSOR Queen of England is the 31st great granddaughter of La dy GODIVA Countess Of Mercia. Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia is the 26th great grandmother of Thomas JEFFERSON. So-called President George W. BUSH is the 33rd great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mer cia. Nikolas II ROMANOV Czar of Russia was the 30th great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Me rcia. Louis XVI, King Of FRANCE was the 27th great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia. Diana SPENCER was the 32nd great granddaughter of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Mercia. Juan Carlos DE BORBON King of Spain is the 32nd great grandson of Lady GODIVA Countess Of Me rcia. Simeon KOBURGOTSKI King and Prime Minister of Bulgaria is the 33rd great grandson of Lady GO DIVA Countess Of Mercia. She was a religious benefactress who---according to tradition when her husband Leofric, Ear l of Mercia, imposed a heavy tax on the townsfolk of Coventry (1040)---obtained its remissio n by riding naked through the market place. The story occurs in Roger of Wendover (1235). Som e writers assert that Lady Godiva ordered all to remain indoors, which they did except for th e famous Peeping Tom, but he is a later addition to the story. An explanation of the Lady Godiva story could well be the survival of a Celtic pagan celebrat ion in honour of the goddess-spirit, Epona. To celebrate the passage of the Moon accross th e night sky and, at the same time, the change from winter to spring, a tradition of a naked l ady with long hair riding on a white horse had survived. Quite possibly Leofric, Earl of Merc ia, had dared his wife, Godiva, to take the local girl's place in the procession. | Countess of Mercia Godiva (I63008)
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| 9970 | [royalfam.ged] Other sources give the name of his second wife as Virginia Pitman. | Dickinson, Rosemary (I66014)
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| 9971 | [royalfam.ged] Otto I, king of Greece 181567, first king of the Hellenes (183362). The second son of King Louis I of Bavaria, h e was chosen (1832) by a conference of European powers at London to rule newly independent Gr eece. He ascended the throne under a highly unpopular regency of Bavarians. A military coup ( 1843) forced a constitution on the king. His authority was further weakened when Greece sough t to attack Turkey in 1854 after the outbreak of the Crimean War; France and Britain as a res ult occupied the port of Piraeus (Pirai©bvs). The kings attempts to discard the constitutio n led to another military revolt (1862) and to his deposition. In 1863 the Greeks chose a Dan ish prince to become their king as George I. http://www.bartleby.com/65/ot/Otto1-Gr.html | Of Greece, Otto I Friedrich (I66257)
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| 9972 | [royalfam.ged] Peter succeeded his father (under the Regency of his uncle Prince Paul of Yugoslavia) when h e was only 10 years old. He had to flee the Country in 1941 when it was invaded by Hitler. Yu goslavia was proclaimed a Republic on 29 November in 1945 and the monarchy abolished withou t Referendum. Peter died in Denver following a liver transplant almost destitute having turne d to alcohol. Some sources erroneously shows Peter died in California. http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Yugoslavian_Royal_Family.htm | King of Yugoslavia Peter II (I46616)
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| 9973 | [royalfam.ged] Please find below a revised listing of the bastard children of King John. The list has been augmented by many new references, corrections, and additions since my last posting of this listing. The new listing includes Philip "Fiz Le Rey" [i.e., Philip the king's son]) found in a 1263 Sussex fine as a possible bastard child of King John. Also, it appears there may be a link between Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz Ives, and another royal bastard, Eudes Fitz Roy. I've learned that in 1245, Isabel's son and heir, William Fitz Ives, sued Giles de Chanceaux regarding property in Cornwall. This is surely the same man who was granted Eudes Fitz Roy's properties in Essex on his death without issue in 1242. The Fitz Ives and Chanceaux link deserves further study. Comments are invited. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah - - - - - - - - - - REVISED LISTING OF BASTARD CHILDREN OF KING JOHN OF ENGLAND: Legitimated child of John of England, by a mistress, Clemence _____: i. JOAN OF ENGLAND, married LLYWELYN AP IORWERTH, Prince of North Wales [see WAKE 4]. Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, _____ de Warenne, daughter of Hamelin, 5th Earl of Surrey, by Isabel, daughter and heiress of William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey [see WARENNE 2]: i. RICHARD FITZ ROY (or DE WARENNE), Knt., Baron of Chilham, Kent, married ROSE DE DOVER [see ATHOLL 4]. Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, Hawise _____: i. OLIVER FITZ ROY. He defended Wolvesey Castle for Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, in 1216. In 1217 he was granted the lands formerly held by Peter Fitz Herbert to sustain him in the king's service. In 1218 he arrived with other English knights at Damietta in the company of Papal legate, Pelayo. He did not return. H.R. Luard, Chronica Majora 3 (1876): 40-41. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp. 42-43,92. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. J.M. Powell, Anatomy of a Crusade (1986), pg. 235. N. Vincent, Peter des Roches (1996), pp. 71,175. Illegitimate children of John of England, by an unknown mistress (or mistresses): i. JOHN FITZ ROY, evidently a clerk, supported by the custodians of the see of Lincoln in 1201. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1201 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 14) (1936), pp. xix,192-193. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. ii. GEOFFREY FITZ ROY. In 1204 he received a loan by the pledge of William Longesp©be, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes. In 1205 he led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. Curia Regis Rolls 3 (1926): 321 (suit dated 1205: " ... quam diu predictus Radulfus [de Trublevill] fuerit in servicio nostro in Pictavia cum Gaufrido filio nostro"). D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1204 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 18) (1940), pp. xxxv-xxxvj,xlj,33,60,87,131. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1205 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 19) (1941), pp. xviij-xix,19,79-80. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. iii. HENRY FITZ ROY, Knt., of Waltham, Ashby, Brigsley, Gonerby (in Hatcliffe), Hawerby, and North Coates, co. Lincoln, and Chilham, Kent. He was sent as a student to the Prior of Kenilworth in 1207. In 1215 he was granted the lands of Robert Fitz Walter in Cornwall. In 1217 he and Ralph de Raleigh were granted the manor of Waltham, co. Lincoln formerly held by Alan Fitz Count to sustain them in royal service. In 1231 he was granted all of the land of Henry de Avaugor, a Norman, in Waltham, co. Lincoln. He married before 1236 EVE DE BLANCHMINSTER (or WHITCHURCH), widow of William de Champernoun (living 1230), of Umberleigh (in Atherington) and High Bickington, Devon, and daughter and heiress of Reynold de Blanchminster (or Whitchurch) (living 1248), of Shrivenham and Winterbourne (in Chieveley), co. Berks, and Bolney, co. Oxford, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter and co-heiress of Nicholas de Bolney. They had no issue. SIR HENRY FITZ ROY died shortly before 8 Apr. 1245. His widow, Eve, married (3rd) before 30 June 1252 Giles de Clifford (living 1276). C.Ch.R. 1 (1895): 137 (styled "Henry the king's brother"). J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the County of Devon (1895), pp. 160. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp. 128, 574 ("Henricus filius regis"). C.C.R., 1227-1231 (1902), pg. 51. C.P.R., 1225-1232 (1903), pp. 311 ("Henricus frater regis"), 357,441. C.C.R., 1234-1237 (1908), pg. 219 ("Henrico fratri regis"). Book of Fees 1 (1920): 362 ("Henricus frater regis"), 617 ("Henricus filius regis"); 2 (1923): 660,675,1021 (instances of "Henricus filius Regis"). C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 20,296,450. C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pg. 511 ("Henricum filium regis"). VCH Berkshire 3 (19??): 424; 4 (1924): 63,513,533. C.C.R., 1251-1253 (1927), pg. 116. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. C.P. 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 645 (sub Wilington). Curia Regis Rolls 13 (1959): 138,215,283 ("Henricus filius regis John"), 290,364-365,371,514,542; 15 (1972): 83,449 (styled "Henricum filium le Rey"). R.A. Brown, Memoranda Roll for the Tenth Year of the Reign of King John (1207-8) (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 31) (1957), pg. 137 (Henry called "our son" [filio nostro] by King John). NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. B.R. Kemp, Reading Abbey Cartularies 1 (Camden, 4th ser., vol. 31) (1986): 375. S.D. Church, Household Knights of King John (1999), pg. 127. iv. OSBERT GIFFORD, Knt. In 1215 he received the lands of Thomas de Ardern in Oxfordshire. In 1216 he likewise received Ardern's lands in Bundes, Norfolk, and elsewhere in Suffolk, Essex, and Sussex, and the lands of Aumary Despenser, Roger Fitz Nicholas, and Ralph Bluet in Oxfordshire. SIR OSBERT GIFFORD died in 1248. Ancestor 3 (1902): 227 (his arms: Ermine two bars gules, on a chief gules a leopard or). Genealogist n.s. 28 (1922): 128-129. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. T.D. Tremlett, Rolls of Arms Henry III (Harleian Soc. Pub., vols. 113-114) (1967), pg. 47. v. EUDES (or IVES) FITZ ROY, of Canewdon, Essex. In 1233 he was granted lands in Aldbury, co. Hertford. He had an exchequer fee of Ã20 granted to him in 1237. In the period, c. 1227/41, he witnessed a charter for his brother, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, to Launceston Priory in Cornwall. In 1240 he joined Earl Richard on a crusade to the Holy Land. EUDES FITZ ROY died there testate shortly before 21 Jan. 1241/2. His lands in Essex were granted to Giles de Chanceaux in 1242. No known descendants. G. Oliver, Monasticon Diocesis Exonienses (1846), pg. 23. C.C.R., 1231-1234 (1905), pg. 210 ("Eudoni filio regis"). C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 179 ("Eudo the king's brother"), 270 ("Eudo son of R. the king's brother"), 314 ("Eudo the king's brother"). C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pp. 73 ("Eudoni fratri regis"), 386-387 ("Eudonis fratris regis"), 387 ("Ivonis fratris domini regis"), 532 ("Eudonis fratris nostri"). Cal. Liberate Rolls 1 (1916), pg. 263. N. Denholm-Young, Richard of Cornwall (1947), pp. 41,112. P.L. Hull, Cartulary of Launceston Priory (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc., n.s., vol. 30) (1987) 12 ("Yvo brother of the earl" [Richard, Earl of Cornwall]). vi. BARTHOLOMEW FITZ ROY, clerk, papal chaplain, member of the order of Friars Preachers, living Aug. 1254. Papal Registers: Letters 1 (1893): 281,286,305. vii. MAUD FITZ ROY, nun, elected Abbess of Barking 5 Aug. 1247; died shortly before 6 Feb. 1252. Sir William Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum 1 (1817): 437,441 ("Dame Maud la file le Roy John"). VCH Essex 2 (1907): 120. Alleged illegitimate child of John of England, by an unknown mistress, _____: i. ISABEL FITZ ROY, married RICHARD FITZ IVES, Knt., lord of Degembris (in Newlyn East), Cornwall. They had two sons, William Fitz Richard, Knt. (of Degembris and Penhallow [both in Newlyn East], Lanisley (in Gulival), and Rosneython and Trenoweth-Chammon [both in St. Keverne]) and Richard Fitz Richard (clerk), and one daughter, Isabel (wife of Belyn Hellegan, Knt.). He gave tithes in Gruguth (in St. Keverne), Cornwall. SIR RICHARD FITZ IVES allegedly died in 1207. Modern descendants (not traced). Herald and Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-231 (Isabel styled "filie Regis Joh'is"). Sir John Maclean, Parochial and Family Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 317. J.L. Vivian, Visitations of Cornwall (1887), pg. 30. G.D. Stawell, A Quantock Family: The Stawells of Cothelstone and their Descendants (1910), pp. 44-45. J.H. Rowe, Cornwall Feet of Fines 1 (1914): 17,49,54-55,58-59,91-92,171,438-440. C.R.R. 11 (1955), pg. 473; 12 (1957): 189. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. C.R.R. 18 (1999): 362-363. Harleian MS. 4031, ff. 76b,81. Possible illegitimate child of John of England, by an unknown mistress, _____: i. PHILIP FITZ ROY (possible child). In 1263 he and his wife, Lavina, conveyed lands at Bignor, Pebmarsh, and Petworth, Surrey to Henry Fitz [le] Roy, perhaps their son. L.F. Salzman, Abstract of Feet of Fines Relating to the County of Sussex (Sussex Rec. Soc., vol. 7) (1908), pg. 45 ("Ph[illip]um Fiz Le Rey" [i.e., Philip the king's son]) (cf. W. Hudson, Three Earliest Subsidies for the County of Sussex in the Years 1296,1327,1332 (Sussex Rec. Soc., vol. 19) (1910), pp. 73,95 (references to "Henr[icus] fyz le Rey" on 1296 Sussex subsidy). The following is a list of eleven bastard children of King John of England which I've assembled from a variety of sources. If anyone has any additions or corrections to this material, please let me know. The first two children listed, Richard Fitz Roy (or de Warenne), Baron of Chilham, Kent, and Joan, wife of Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales, have many modern descendants. Although sometimes questioned, I accept Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz Ives, Knt., as a bastard daughter of King John. Isabel appears to have modern descendants. Besides Isabel, I've also included a new bastard child for King John not commonly found on such lists, namely Maud Fitz Roy, Abbess of Barking, whose identity is proven by the sources cited below. Sidney Painter, King John's historian, says of him: ".... cruel, lecherous, and deceitful." Surely the number of illegitimate children listed below for King John proves the lecherous part. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com - - - - - - - - - - - - BASTARD CHILDREN OF KING JOHN OF ENGLAND Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, _____ de Warenne: i. RICHARD FITZ ROY (or DE WARENNE), Knt., Baron of Chilham, Kent, married ROSE DE DOVER [see ATHOLL 4]. Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, Clemence _____: i. JOAN OF ENGLAND, married LLYWELYN AP IORWERTH, Prince of North Wales [see WAKE 4]. Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, Hawise _____: i. OLIVER FITZ ROY. He defended Wolvesey Castle for Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, in 1216. In 1217 he was granted the lands formerly held by Peter Fitz Herbert to sustain him in the king';s service. In 1218 he arrived with other English knights at Damietta in the company of Papal legate, Pelayo. He did not return. H.R. Luard, Chronica Majora 3 (1876): 40-41. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp. 42-43,92. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. J.M. Powell, Anatomy of a Crusade (1986), pg. 235. N. Vincent, Peter des Roches (1996), pp. 71,175. Illegitimate children of John of England, by an unknown mistress (or mistresses): i. ISABEL FITZ ROY, married RICHARD FITZ IVES, Knt., lord of Degembris (in Newlyn East), Cornwall. They had two sons, William Fitz Richard, Knt. (of Degembris and Penhallow [both in Newlyn East], Lanisley, and Rosneython [in St. Keverne]) and Richard Fitz Richard (clerk), and one daughter, Isabel (wife of Belyn Hellegan, Knt.). He gave tithes in Gruguth (in St. Keverne), Cornwall. SIR RICHARD FITZ IVES died in 1207. Modern descendants (not traced in this book). Herald and Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-231. Sir John Maclean, Parochial and Family Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 317. J.L. Vivian, Visitations of Cornwall (1887), pg. 30. J.H. Rowe, Cornwall Feet of Fines 1 (1914): 17,49,54-55,58-59,91-92,171,438-440. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. Harleian MS. 4031, ff. 76b,81 (not seen). ii. JOHN FITZ ROY, evidently a clerk, supported by the custodians of the see of Lincoln in 1201. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1201 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 14) (1936), pp. xix,192-193. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. iii. GEOFFREY FITZ ROY. In 1204 he received a loan by the pledge of William Longesp©be, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes. In 1205 he led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. Curia Regis Rolls 3 (1926): 321 (suit dated 1205: "... quam diu predictus Radulfus [de Trublevill] fuerit in servicio nostro in Pictavia cum Gaufrido filio nostro"). D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1204 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 18) (1940), pp. xxxv-xxxvj,xlj,33,60,87,131. D.M. Stenton Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1205 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 19) (1941), pp. xviij-xix,19,79-80. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. iv. HENRY FITZ ROY, Knt., of Waltham, Ashby, Brigsley, Gonerby (in Hatcliffe), Hawerby, and North Coates, co. Lincoln, and Chilham, Kent. He was sent as a student to the Prior of Kenilworth in 1207. In 1215 he was granted the lands of Robert Fitz Walter in Cornwall. In 1217 he and Ralph de Raleigh were granted the manor of Waltham, co. Lincoln to sustain them in royal service. In 1231 he was granted all of the land of Henry de la Vaugoz, a Norman, in the soke of Waltham, co. Lincoln. He married before 1236 EVE DE WHITCHURCH, widow of William de Champernoun (living 1230), of Umberleigh (in Atherington) and High Bickington, Devon, and daughter and heiress of Reynold de Whitchurch, of Shrivenham and Winterbourne (in Chieveley), co. Berks, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter and co-heiress of Nicholas de Bolney. They had no issue. SIR HENRY FITZ ROY died shortly before 8 Apr. 1245. His widow, Eve, married (3rd) before 30 June 1252 Giles de Clifford (living 1276). C.Ch.R. 1 (1895): 137. J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the County of Devon (1895), pp. 160. Book of Fees 1: 362,617; 2 (1923): 660,675,1021. C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 20,296,450. C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pg. 511. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 63,533. C.C.R., 1251-1253 (1927), pg. 116. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. C.P. 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 645 (sub Wilington). Curia Regis Rolls 13 (1959): 514; 15 (1972): 83,449. S.D. Church, Household Knights of King John (1999), pg. 127. v. OSBERT GIFFORD. In 1215 he received the lands of Thomas de Ardern in Oxfordshire. In 1216 he likewise received Ardern's lands in Norfolk, Suffolk, and Sussex. In 1216 he and his wife received safe conduct to confer with King John. His subsequent history is unknown. Ancestor 3 (1902): 227 (his arms: Ermine, 2 bars gules, a chief gules with a leopard or in chief). Genealogist n.s. 28 (1922): 128-129. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. vi. EUDES FITZ ROY, of Canewdon, Essex. In 1233 he was granted lands in Aldbury, co. Hertford. He had an exchequer fee iof Ã20 granted to him in 1237. In 1240 he joined his half-brother, Richard, Earl of Cornwall on a crusade to the Holy Land. EUDES FITZ ROY died there testate shortly before 21 Jan. 1241/2. His lands in Essex were granted to Giles de Chanceaus in 1242. No known descendants. G. Oliver, Monasticon Diocesis Exonienses (1846), pg. 23. C.C.R., 1231-1234 (1905), pg. 210. C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 179,270,314. C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pp. 387,532. Cal. Liberate Rolls 1 (1916), pg. 263. N. Denholm-Young, Richard of Cornwall (1947), pp. 41,112. vii. BARTHOLOMEW FITZ ROY, clerk, papal chaplain, member of the order of Friars Preachers, living Aug. 1254. Papal Registers: Letters 1 (1893): 281,286,305. viii. MAUD FITZ ROY, nun, elected Abbess of Barking 5 Aug. 1247; died shortly before 6 Feb. 1252. Sir William Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum 1 (1817): 437,441. VCH Essex 2 (1907): 120. Signed Magna Carta in 1215 The statement in the legitimization of Joan, daughter of king John and wife of prince Llywelyn, that each of her parents were unmarried at the time of her birth, does not imply she was born prior to John's first marriage, to Isabelle de Clare in 1189. This marriage had been annulled by the time of Joan's legitimization, and would have been considered by the clerics not to have occurred. It might be that the legitimization does imply that, by the time of John's second marriage, to Isabelle of Angouleme, that Joan's mother was either dead or had become a nun, otherwise the legitimacy of king Henry III might have been called into question. It might also be that the reference in Joan's obituary to her mother as "queen Clementia" implies that Clemence, mother of Joan, did not die or become a nun until after John's accession. I suspect that in the minds of the monks and clerics who recorded things, these annulments and legitimizations created a virtual world in which annulled real world marriages did not exist, and appropriate legitimizing marriages did exist, with all appropriate side effect implications, including Clemence having been queen.. - Paul K. Davis - paulkdavis@earthlink.net King John had illegitimate children over the entire course of his adult life. He was a very busy man in the bedroom. One of his older bastard sons, Geoffrey, received a loan by the pledge of William Longesp©be, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes in 1204. In 1205 he led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. King John likewise had another illegitimate daughter, Joan, who married before 23 Mar. 1204/5 Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales. Consequently, it is possible that King John was the father of Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz Ives, who allegedly died in 1207. By the way, I have reason to suppose that Isabel survived Richard Fitz Ives for many years and remarried. Second, Isabel de Beaupre is not the same person as King John's bastard daughter, Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz Ives. As best I can tell, Isabel de Beaupre is a later day descendant and the senior heiress of the Fitz Ives family. I didn't mean to imply that the two Isabel's were the same person. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah | PLANTAGENET, King of England JOHN (I44670)
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| 9974 | [royalfam.ged] Presumed to have been murdered by his uncle, King Richard III. http://tudorhistory.org/people/eyork/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_of_Shrewsbury%2C_1st_Duke_of_York | Richard Duke of York (I63607)
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| 9975 | [royalfam.ged] Presumed to have been murdered by his uncle, King Richard III. http://tudorhistory.org/people/eyork/ | Edward, King Edward V V (I65762)
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| 9976 | [royalfam.ged] Prince Pierre-Marie-Xavier-Antoine-Melchoir, Count of Polignac, born October 24 1895 in the C hateau de Kerscamp (Morbihan), named Grimaldi by Order in Council on March 18, 1920, decease d November 10, 1964. Pierre de Polignac Count Pierre Marie Xavier Raphael Antoine Melchior de Polignac, duc de Valentinois (24 Octobe r 1895 - 10 November 1964), was son of Maxence de Polignac (1857-1936) and his wife Suzanne d e la Torre y Mier (1858-1913), and married the hereditary Princess of Monaco. Because a female Grimaldi could inherit only if her husband was also a Grimaldi, Pierre de Po lignac became Prince Pierre Grimaldi, Comte de Polignac on 18 March, 1920, the day before hi s religious marriage. He married civilly 18 March 1920 in Monaco Princess Charlotte of Monaco, n©be Charlotte Louis e Juilette Louvet, daughter of Louis II of Monaco and Marie Juliette Louvet. They were judici ally separated on 20 March, 1930 at Paris, and divorced by ordinance of Prince Louis II on 1 8 February, 1933. Following the divorce, Charlotte took up residence at the Ch©Øteau de Marcha is with Ren©b Gigier, one of Frances most infamous jewel thieves. The Count and his wife had two children, Princess Antoinette of Monaco (b. 1920) and Rainie r III of Monaco. | De Polignac, Prince Pierre Marie Xavier (I65968)
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| 9977 | [royalfam.ged] Princess Astrid of Sweden was born on November 17, 1905. She was the youngest daughter of Pri nce Charles of Sweden, Duke of Vastergotland, and Princess Ingeborg of Denmark. Astrid's gran dparents were King Oscar II of Sweden and King Frederick VIII of Denmark. Astrid"s sister, Pr incess Martha, married the future King Olaf V of Norway. Her eldest sister, Princess Margaret ha married Prince Axel of Denmark, while her only brother Prince Carl, Duke of Ostergotland , married morganatically. Some months later, King Albert I and Queen Elisabeth of Belgium inv ited the press to the royal palace in Brussels. "The Queen and I, declared Albert, would lik e to announce to you the impending marriage between Prince Leopold, Duke of Brabant and the P rincess Astrid of Sweden. We are convinced that the princess will bring joy and happiness t o our son. Leopold and Astrid have decided to join their lives without any pressures or reaso ns of state. Theirs is a true union among people with the same inclinations." Queen Elisabeth , incorrigible romantic that she was, insisted in saying "It is a marriage of love...tell i t to our people. Nothing was arranged. Not a single political consideration prevailed in ou r son's decision." Leopold and Astrid were married in Brussels on November 10, 1926. Astrid w as immediately adopted by the Belgians. She was tender, understanding and profoundly human. H er public and official engagements irradiated enthusiasm. Leopold was her most fervent admire r. The love shared by the young couple was evident to all. In more than one occasion people c ould see them holding hands, even during official engagements. Astrid was immediately adopte d by the Belgians. On August 29, 1935, while the King and Queen were driving along the winding, narrow roads nea r their villa at K©ossnacht am Rigi, Schwyz, Switzerland on the shores of Lake of Lucerne, Leo pold lost control of the vehicle and the car plunged down a ravine, killing Astrid. | of Sweden, Princess Astrid (I46748)
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| 9978 | [royalfam.ged] Princess Charlotte of Monaco Charlotte Grimaldi (September 30, 1898 - November 15, 1977) was a Princess of Monaco. Born Charlotte Louise Juliette Louvet in Constantine, Algeria, she was the illegitimate daugh ter of Marie Juliette Louvet (1867 - 1930), and Prince Louis II of Monaco (1870 - 1949). Charlotte's mother was married to, in 1885, Achille Delmaet, 1860-1914, a photographer. Late r divorced, they had two children: Georges, 1884-1955, and Marguerite, 1886-1894. At some poi nt, Louvet moved to Algeria, where she worked as a cabaret singer or a laundress (sources dif fer) and met the heir to the Monegasque throne. Though it is sometimes alleged that a marriag e between the two occurred, Charlotte, born in 1898, was declared an illegitimate child. Thou gh he took full responsibility for his daughter's upbringing, eventually Prince Louis left Ju liette to return to his duties in Monaco. A political crisis loomed for the Prince because, without any other heir, the throne of Monac o would pass to the duke of Urach, a German prince, related through Prince Albert's aunt, Flo restine. To ensure this did not happen, on November 15, 1911 a law was passed recognizing Charlotte a s Louis's daughter, and making her part of the sovereign family. This law was later held to b e invalid under the 1882 statutes. Thus another law was passed in 1918 modifying the statute s to allow the adoption of an heir, with succession rights. Charlotte was adopted by Louis i n 1919, and became Charlotte Louise Juliette Grimaldi, Hereditary Princess of Monaco, and Duc hess of Valentinois. Rainier-Charlotte-Antoinette A year after being recognized as princess, Charlotte's marriage was arranged to Count Pierr e de Polignac (1895 - 1964) of Guidel, Morbihan, Brittany, France who, by ordinance of Loui s II, took the Grimaldi name and received the title of Prince of Monaco. They would have tw o children: | Valentinois, Charlotte of (I65980)
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| 9979 | [royalfam.ged] Princess Diana Spencer is a 13th cousin one generation removed from President George W. Bush . John DRYDEN of Canons Ashby is the 13th great grandfather of so-called President George W . BUSH through his daughter Bridget Dryden. John DRYDEN of Canons Ashby is the 12th great gra ndfather of Diana SPENCER through his son Erasmus Dryden. http://worldroots.com/brigitte/famous/s/spenceralthorpindex.htm | Spencer, Lady Diana Frances (I46797)
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| 9980 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Of Greece, Theodora (I65715)
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| 9981 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Of Sweden, Princess Victoria Ingrid Alice (I45809)
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| 9982 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Knatchbull, Alexandra Victoria Edwina Diana (I65770)
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| 9983 | [royalfam.ged] Referred to as "The Kingmaker", Richard Neville attempted to wield power through the weakness es of both Yorkists and Lancastrians kings. He and his father (earl of Salisbury) partnered w ith the duke of York in his attempt to claim the crown. After helping Edward IV to gain the c rown, he turned against Edward and joined forces with his brother George, duke of Clarence i n 1469. When that gambit failed he switched sides and allied with Margaret of Anjou to put He nry VI back on the throne. Richard was killed at the battle of Barnet by the forces of Edwar d IV. http://www.warsoftheroses.com/ born Nov. 22, 1428 died April 14, 1471 , Barnet, Hertfordshire, Eng. byname The Kingmaker English nobleman called, since the 16th century, the Kingmaker, in re ference to his role as arbiter of royal power during the first half of the Wars of the Rose s (145585) between the houses of Lancaster and York. He obtained the crown for the Yorkist k ing Edward IV in 1461 and later restored to power (147071) the deposed Lancastrian monarch H enry VI. http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=78171&tocid=0 | Neville, Earl of Warwick Richard (I47140)
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| 9984 | [royalfam.ged] Regarding the identity of Clemence, mother of Joan of England, wife of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales, the following information might be helpful. The actual entry in the Tewksbury annals which pertains to Joan's mother, "Queen" Clemence, reads as follows: Year: A.D. 1236 Obiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini filia regis Johannis et regina Clemencie, iii. kal. Aprilis." [Died lady Joan lady of Wales, wife of Llywelyn, daughter of King John and Queen Clemence, 3 Kal. April." Reference: Henry Richard Luard, Annales Monastici, 1 (1864): 101. In this case, the monk was evidently indulging in medieval legalism. Before her death, Joan had been legitimized by the Pope. On the basis of that legitimization, the Tewksbury monk evidently chose to elevate Joan's mother to the status of Queen, as if Joan's mother had been King John's wife. In point of fact, King John and Joan's mother, Clemence, were never married. By referring to Joan's mother as "Queen" Clemence, the monk who recorded Joan's death was showing his extreme respect for Joan, not attempting to alter the facts. The item from the Patent Rolls cited by Robert Battle below involving Joan's daughter, Susanna, was located by me some years ago. Basically, the document states that King Henry III is entrusting the care of his niece, Susanna (daughter of Llywelyn and Joan), to the care of Nicholas de Verdun and Clemence, his wife. On the surface, there would be nothing to suggest any connection between Susanna of Wales and Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun. However, Susanna was almost certainly being held in England as a hostage as a guarantee for good behavior on the part of her father, Llywelyn. Her brother, David, for instance, was being held hostage in England at the time of the Magna Carta. My experience with foreign hostages has been that they were often placed with their English relatives, if any were available. To verify that, one has only to consult the long list of Scottish hostages in this period, who I discovered were repeatedly placed with their English kinsmen. Being a hostage in this period basically meant the person was under house arrest. Under such circumstances, it is easy to understand why such persons were placed with their own relations. The fact that Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun, is mentioned at all catches the eye. Under normal circumstances, the wife would not be named. The fact that she was so named suggests she had some interest in Susanna. Given the fact we know that Susanna's grandmother was named Clemence, it becomes readily apparent that Clemence, wife of Nicholas de Verdun, was Susanna's own grandmother. That this is true is underscored by the fact that when the king later granted Susanna's care to another individual, no mention was made of the other man's wife. Even more important, the name Clemence is extremely rare among English noble women of this period. The fact that anyone named Clemence would be associated with Susanna is important. As for the identity of Clemence de Verdun, Paget shows that she was the daughter of Roger de Dauntsey, of Wiltshire. It is interesting that Clemence would hail from Wiltshire. Over the years, I've noticed that King John had a strong attachment to Wiltshire, it being the home of his most trusted allies, the Longespee, Marshal, and Basset families and Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Earl of Essex. Surely, given that his strongest supporters were all Wiltshire people suggests that King John spent much time there. Back in 1992, I shared my findings on Clemence de Dauntsey with Gary Boyd Roberts, who in turn placed her name as Joan's mother in his book, Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, published in 1993. On page 305, he notes that I was then planning an article on Princess Joan and her mother, Clemence. Due to circumstances beyond my control, the article was never published as scheduled. However, I do plan to include a discussion of Clemence de Dauntsey in my forthcoming book, Plantagenet Ancestry, 3rd edition. For those interested in obtaining a copy of the book, please contact me privately at my e-mail address below. In this case, I think the evidence is suggestive but not conclusive that Clemence de Dauntsey was Princess Joan's mother. Perhaps with a little prodding of the records, the desired conclusive evidence of Joan's parentage will ye t be located. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com | Clementia (I59436)
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| 9985 | [royalfam.ged] Reign: 1947-64. During most of WW II, when Greece was under German occupation, he was with th e Greek government-in-exile in London and Cairo. From Cairo, he broadcast messages to the Gre ek people. He returned to Greece in 1946 and succeeded to the throne in 1947, on the death o f his brother, King George II. | Oldenburg, King of Greece Paul I (I45691)
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| 9986 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Of Denmark, Queen of Denmark Mergrethe II (I64977)
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| 9987 | [royalfam.ged] She was King George's half-sister, not his mistress. According to vol. 14 of the Complete Pee rage: The stories that Sophia Charlotte was mistress of George I were demolished in Ragnild Hatton , George I, Elector and King, 1879, pp. 23-4, 134-5. | Von Platten-Hallermund, Charlotte (I60535)
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| 9988 | [royalfam.ged] Some new research on the parentage of the Queen Mother's great grandmother in the maternal li ne, Ann Caroline Salisbury, has just been published by Edward J. Davies, Genealogists' Magaz ine, vol. 27, no 8, pp. 348-354 (2002) [Society of Genealogists of London]. Chris Phillips | Salisbury, Anne Caroline (I46492)
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| 9989 | [royalfam.ged] Soon after the birth of his grandson, Joao VI finally returned to Portugal. Along with him we nt most members of the Braganza family, Pedro remained in Brazil to act as regent for his fat her. Initially Joao VI was appalled at Pedro's desire to remain in Brazil, but after his so n refused to back away from his decision, the king agreed to Pedro and Leopoldina remaining b ehind. Dom Miguel, the king's second son, did not question returning to Portugal for he neve r really adapted to life in Brazil. Besides it is quite possible that Miguel already foresa w his future as monarch of Portugal while his brother remained ruler of Brazil. Leopoldina' s life in Brazil was to be fraught with anxieties over her future, that of her children and t he decreasing attention paid her by her husband. Her first disappointment was the untimely de ath of little Prince Joao in 1822. The arrival of a second daughter one month after Joao's de ath did not improve much the parents' spirits. For Pedro an heir was a necessity since the he ir presumptive to Portugal and Brazil was his increasingly troublesome brother Dom Miguel . A third daughter, Paula Mariana, was born in 1823. In late 1822, Prince Regent Pedro of Bra ganza decided to stage a coup d"etat to emancipate Brazil from the Portuguese crown. Joao V I himself had recommended this course of action as a means of guaranteeing the Brazilian crow n would remain under the Braganzas. During the royal family's long stay in Brazil the colon y had learned how to rule itself without Lisbon"s guidance. Once Napoleon's regime was ousted , Lisbon faintly tried to restore its control over Brazilian affairs. This course of action w as deeply resented by the Brazilians who were deeply resentful of Portuguese involvement in t he country"s internal affairs. Thus to guarantee that Brazil would not be completely lost, Pr ince Regent Pedro gave his support to the independence movement that sealed the colony"s brea k from Lisbon. At the age of twenty-four, the Prince Regent became Emperor Pedro I of Brazil . In the meantime, Pedro I continued to neglect his Austrian consort. It seemed that the onl y reason why he spent any time with her was in an effort to produce the long-awaited heir. Th e couple's fourth daughter, Francisca Carolina, was born in 1824. Pedro"s impatience with Leo poldina knew no bounds and he continued to spend more time away from her and in the arms of h is mistresses. Leopoldina's life in Brazil had turned into a living inferno, far away from he r family, ignored by her husband, the young Brazilian empress slowly fell into deep depressio n. In Vienna, Emperor Franz I openly referred to his Brazilian son-in-law as a scoundrel. Non etheless, Pedro and Leopoldina continued their efforts to produce an heir. The arrival of Pri nce Pedro de Alcantara of Braganza in late 1825, was Leopoldina's crowning satisfaction. Exha usted by constant childbearing since her arrival in Brazil, Empress Leopoldina died practical ly ignored by her husband one year after the birth of the couple's only surviving son. | Emperor of Brazil Pedro I (I63029)
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| 9990 | [royalfam.ged] Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect | De Bourbon, Elizabeth (I59142)
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| 9991 | [royalfam.ged] Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect | Countess of Orleans Marguerite (I59660)
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| 9992 | [royalfam.ged] Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect | D'albret, Queen of Navarre Jeanne (I45327)
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| 9993 | [royalfam.ged] Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect | D' Navarre, Henri Albert II (I60082)
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| 9994 | [royalfam.ged] Source from Hills/Hatcher Family Tree on World Connect | De Bourbon, Antoine (I44538)
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| 9995 | [royalfam.ged] Sources: "The Kings of Scotland", which appeared in volume I [1904] of *The Scots Peerage*, e dited by Sir James Balfour Paul, page 22-23. | Valois, Henri le B©Øtard d'Angouleme (I64451)
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| 9996 | [royalfam.ged] The battle of Flodden was a carnage of Scotsmen, but one woman, Margaret Boyd, must have suff ered a great deal. Her lover, James IV, King of Scots, was killed and so was their son, Alexa nder. Also, Margaret's husband, John Mure, of Rowallen was killed in that battle. | Boyd, Margaret (I44184)
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| 9997 | [royalfam.ged] The best thing the Constance theory has going for it is drama. It would make a good movie. Joan was born somewhere around 1187/1188. Constance was carrying Geoffrey's child in 1186 when Geoffrey was killed. The child, the ill-fated Arthur, was born posthumous. This is the same Arthur, nephew of John, that John allegedly murdered. He had to do penance for his part in the act. So -- if Constance were also Joan's mother, Arthur was Joan's stepbrother and also a stepson to John! Also, Henry II forced Constance to remarry after the death of Geoffrey to one of his favorites, Randulph de Blundeville, Earl of Chester. One could speculate that the reason she needed to marry a man that outlived her by 31 years is that she was pregnant and needed a husband, but the chronology is very tight, as Henry died in 1189 shortly after forcing the match. Great movie material, but it seems a little doubtful. The best thing we can learn from this is that Joan's papal decree shows that no one wanted her to know who her mother really was. It was a secret then and has remained that way through the ages. All we can learn from John's whereabouts was that he was in both France and England at the time Joan was likely conceived. It looks as though the identity of Clementia will be a mystery for a very long time. I was hoping we had something new with the land transfers and the wife of Joan's custodian being named Clemence, but there are too many possible interpretations. -Ken KHF333@aol.com | Plantagenet, Duke of Brittany, Prince of England Geoffrey (I44684)
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| 9998 | [royalfam.ged] The Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was renamed the Kingdom of Yugoslavia on 3 Octobe r 1929. King Alexander was assassinated on 9 October 1934 in Marseilles at the start of a sta te visit to France, by Velucko Kerin a Macedonian revolutionary, working with Croat revolutio nists. The assassin who was shot during the affray died a few hours later. Marie escaped poss ible assassination as she was recovering from an illness and being a poor sailor had travelle d separately from Yugoslavia to France by train. For strategic purposes Alexander had travell ed by boat from Yugoslavia to Marseilles and was due to meet up with his wife in Dijon/Lyon f or the final journey to Paris. | King of Yugoslavia Alexander I (I46578)
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| 9999 | [royalfam.ged] The only place where her mother is named is in the Tewkesbury Annals, where Joan's death is recorded. The Tewkesbury annalist says Joan was a daughter of King John and of "Regina Clementia". Nobody knows who this "Queen Clementia" was. William Addams Reitwiesner wrei@erols.com | PLANTAGENET, Princess of England JOAN (I58911)
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| 10000 | [royalfam.ged] The royal family's refusal to acknowledge any human frailty is not new. Prince John, who woul d have become brother-in-law to both the Queen Mother and Princess Alice had he lived, was bo rn in 1905. His life was transformed when he was four and had his first epileptic fit. His health-obsesse d parents, later George V and Queen Mary, were appalled. He was excluded from official family photographs. He was not allowed to be present at his fat her's coronation in 1911. Early in 1917, John was removed from any risk of public discovery forever. He was consigne d - with a nanny and two robust male attendants to hold him down whenever he had fits - to Wo od Farm, on a corner of the Sandringham estate. He was never to see his parents again. Two years later John died in his sleep. The King and Queen drove the three miles from the mai n house at Sandringham to view his body. http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,2763,346418,00.html Set against a backdrop of unprecedented upheaval in Britain, The Lost Prince tells the heartb reaking story of a prince that history forgot. Acclaimed writer and director Stephen Poliakoff (Shooting the Past) assembles a fabulous cas t for this true story of an Edwardian prince, John, the youngest child of George V and Quee n Mary. His short life spanned one of the most momentous periods in history -- the politica l build-up to the First World War and the machinations of European royalty in the early par t of the 20th century. Diagnosed as an epileptic, and suffering from autistic-like learning difficulties, Prince Joh n was unable to participate in public life and became increasingly isolated from his family. Gina McKee (The Forsyte Saga), Tom Hollander (Wives and Daughters, Gosford Park), Miranda Ric hardson (The Hours, The Crying Game), and Michael Gambon (Wives and Daughters, Harry Potter ) star in this human story of a unique family and an extraordinary boy. | Windsor, Prince John Charles Francis (I46488)
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