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| 9851 | [royalfam.ged] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Mary Lilian Baels (November 28, 1916 - June 7, 2002) was best known as Princess de R©bthy, th e controversial morganatic second wife of King Leopold III of the Belgians. Leopold and LilianMary Lilian Lucy Josepha Monique Baels was born in Highbury, London, Englan d, one of eight children of Henri Baels, an attorney and fish trader from Ostend, Belgium, an d his wife Anne Marie de Visscher, who were living in England during World War I. In 1926, Henri Baels became Belgian Minister of Agriculture and King Leopold III appointed hi m Governor (royal representative) of the province of West Flanders. An avid golfer, and regul ar visitor to the Knokke-le-Zoute golf course, Baels's daughter Lilian attracted the attentio n of King Leopold, a widower, and the two became frequent golf partners. (The king's popula r first wife, n©be Princess Astrid of Sweden, had been killed in an automobile accident in 193 5 at age 29; her husband, who had been king for just a year, was at the wheel and lost contro l of the vehicle in what has been described as "a moment of inattention.") Eyebrows were rais ed at the still-grieving king's frequent outings with the alluring commoner but Queen Mothe r Elisabeth reportedly played Cupid. According to an unauthorized biography of Lilian, Leopol d's mother invited the young woman to distract the king from his troubles. The details of th e couple's celebrated courtship will become clearer in 2033, when their love letters will b e available for study. On September 11, 1941, Lilian Baels reportedly married the king in a religious ceremony. A bi ography of the monarch, written by Antoine Giscard d'Estaing, states that the marriage actual ly took place on December 6, with the September date given to conceal the fact that Lilian wa s pregnant with the couple's first child. The public announcement of the king's second marria ge was made in December when Cardinal Van Roey, primate of Belgium, wrote an open letter to p arish priests throughout the country. The letter revealed that the king's new wife would be k nown as Princess de R©bthy, not Queen Lilian, and that any children they might have would hav e no claim to the throne. The marriage was considered morganatic, and the R©bthy title does no t appear to have been officially established in royal records, though it was the name by whic h she was popularly known (she was, however, made a royal Princess of Belgium). That fateful date of December 6, 1941 has been called king's personal Pearl Harbor. The publi c disapproval was stunning. According to an obituary of Lilian that appeared in the London Te legraph on October 6, 2002, a leading Belgian newspaper expressed the thoughts of many in th e country at the time when it published the following words: "Sire, we thought you had your f ace turned towards us in mourning. Instead you had it hidden in the shoulder of a woman." The king's new wife was widely suspected of Nazi sympathies (one source reports that upon hea ring of the wedding, Hitler sent flowers and a letter of congratulations), and the marriage w as to many Belgians an affront to the memory of the beloved Queen Astrid. Leopold's reputatio n would be further undermined by lingering questions about his wartime actions, among them hi s surrender of Belgium to the Germans in 1940, an action that resulted in the Belgian governm ent in exile declaring the king unable to rule and naming as regent his brother, Prince Charl es, Count of Flanders. (Revisionist historians have sifted through the evidence, however, an d discovered that the king was braver and more concerned about the welfare of his country tha n he appeared and may well have been a scapegoat.) Unable to overcome the nation's low opinio n of his remarriage and distressed by left-wing riots against his return to the throne afte r the war -- Leopold, his wife, and his four children had been held under house arrest by th e Nazis in Belgium, Germany, and Austria, and spent some years in Swiss exile before returnin g to Belgium in 1950 after a national referendum -- the king handed over his constitutional p owers to his son Baudouin on August 10, 1950. He relinquished the title of king 11 months lat er and became H.R.H. Prince Leopold of Belgium, Duke of Brabant. Soon, however, concerns were raised by royal insiders that the Baudouin, who was 20 when he a ssumed the throne, might be in love with his glamorous stepmother, who was 14 years his senio r. Secretly recorded telephone calls between young king and the princess raised alarms in min isterial circles. Disturbing, too, according to an article written by journalist Jean-Claud e Broch©b after Princess de R©bthy's death, was the pair's trip to the Tyrol in the winter of 1 952-53, when they travelled in adjoining train compartments. (Information about that journe y was publicly revealed when the journals of Achille Van Acker, a Belgian prime minister, wer e published.) As time went by, the concerns appear to have subsided but observers surely cluc ked after they learned of the unexplained actions of Princess de R©bthy and Prince Leopold i n the weeks after December 15, 1960, the day Baudouin married a Spanish noblewoman two year s his senior, Dona Fabiola Fernanda Mar©Ua de las Victorias Antonia Adelaida de Mora y Aragon . When the newlyweds returned from their honeymoon, they discovered that Lilian and Leopold h ad abruptly moved out of Kasteel Laeken, the sprawling royal palace where they had lived wit h Baudouin for a decade, and set up house in a country castle near Waterloo. A prolonged an d mysterious period of estrangement between the couples followed. The three children of King Leopold III (later Prince Leopold of Belgium, Duke of Brabant), an d his second wife, Princess Lilian of Belgium, are: Alexander Emmanuel Henry Albert Marie Leopold, Prince of Belgium, born in Brussels on July 18 , 1942. Married, in 1991, L©ba Inge Dora Wolman (married became public knowledge in 1998); sh e was created a Princess of Belgium in her own right. Marie-Christine Daphn©b Astrid Elisabeth Leopoldine, Princess of Belgium, born in Brussels o n February 6, 1951. Married first, in 1981 (separated 1981, divorced 1985), Paul Drucker, a.k .a. Paul Drake, divorced; married second, in 1989, Jean-Paul Gourgues. Resides in California . Maria-Esmeralda Ad©bla©de Lilian Anne L©bopoldine, Princess of Belgium, born in Brussels on Sep tember 30, 1956. Married, in 1998, Salvador Enrique Moncada. A journalist, her professional n ame is Esmeralda de R©bthy. Princess Lilian of Belgium, Duchess of Brabant was interred next to her husband in the roya l vault at the Church of Our Lady in Laeken, Belgium. Her surviving stepchildren attended th e funeral, as did her stepdaughter-in-law, the widowed Queen Fabiola. Her son and younger dau ghter and their spouses also were present at the ceremony; Daphn©b, her long-estranged eldes t daughter, however, "stayed away," according to the royal-watching website www.nettyroyal.nl . Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Lilian_Baels" | Baels, Mary Liliane (I44446)
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| 9852 | [royalfam.ged] From: Jean-Michel.Francou@skf.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:23:53 +0200 Dear Sam, Please note that it should be "Herstal" and not Heristal Pepin de Herstal Died in Jupille, Belgium Herstal is presently in Belgium Regards Jean-Michel Francou | Mayor of The Palace of Austrasia PBEPIN II (I62017)
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| 9853 | [royalfam.ged] George I, elector of Hanover, succeeded to the British throne on the death of Queen Anne in 1 714. The succession was determined by the Act ofSettlement of 1701, which passed over the leg itimate but Roman Catholic representatives of the Stuart line in favor of the Protestant hous e of Hanover, descended from the daughter of James I. George quarreled both with his wife, Sophia Dorothea (1666-1726), whom he divorced and incarc erated (from 1694 until her death) in punishment forher alleged infidelity, and with his son , Prince George, who consorted with his political opponents. The prince succeeded to the thro ne as George II when George I died on June 12, 1727. Died of stroke. Reigned from 1714 to 1727. | Hanover, King of England George I (I46468)
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| 9854 | [royalfam.ged] George II succeeded to the British throne and the electorate of Hanover on the death of his f ather, George I, in 1727. Born on Nov. 10, 1683, in Hanover, he remained largely Hanoverian i n his interests, although,unlike his father, he learned fluent English. He visited the electo rate regularly during most of his reign and sometimes utilized his position asking of Englan d to the advantage of his German territory. Although George has been represented as a king manipulated by his own ministers--notably Si r Robert Walpole and the duke of Newcastle--and byhis highly intelligent wife, Queen Carolin e (1683-1737), he was by no means a weak monarch. He played a larger part in the direction o f foreign and military policy than most contemporaries suspected, and at Dettingen (1743), i n the War of the Austrian Succession, was the last British monarch to appear in person on th e battlefield. His reign witnessed the final collapse of the Jacobites after their uprising o f 1745 and closed with Britain's brilliant successes in the Seven Years' War (1756-63) unde r the leadership of William Pitt the Elder. George had long detested Pitt, but he eventuall y came to recognize his merits. George's son, Frederick, predeceased him, so when George II died on Oct.25, 1760, he was succ eeded by Frederick's son, George III. Although he was vulnerable to management by others, Geo rge II was undoubtedly aknowledgeable and skillful politician, within the narrow framework o f Hanoverian interests in which he worked. Died of aneurysm | Hanover, King of England George Augustus II (I61653)
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| 9855 | [royalfam.ged] George IV, who served as prince regent from 1811 to 1820 (see Regency)before succeeding his f ather, George III, to the throne, brought the standing of the British monarchy lower than a t any other time in its modern history. Born on Aug. 12, 1762, he consorted as a young man wi th his father's parliamentary opponents, including Charles James Fox. In1785 he illegally mar ried Mrs. Maria Fitzherbert. He subsequently denied the marriage in order to secure Parliamen t's payment of his debts, and in1795 he married Princess Caroline of Brunswick, whom he late r attempted to divorce on his accession as king. Although long an ally of the Whigs, he decli ned to bring them into power when he became regent, and he was thereafter associated with dee ply conservative causes, especially the maintenance of official discrimination against Roma n Catholics and Protestant dissenters. His personal profligacy and his treatment of Queen Car oline brought him great unpopularity. He spent extravagant sums on the arts. Some of the rich est portions of the royal collection and, above all, the Royal Pavilion at Brighton remain a s monuments to his cultural interests. He died on June 26, 1830, and was succeeded by his bro ther,William IV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV_of_the_United_Kingdom | Hanover, King of England George IV (I44719)
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| 9856 | [royalfam.ged] Having followed the various threads on this subject, is the following correct? Llywellyn Fawr (1194-1240) Married [1] Joan Plantagenet (c 1189-1236) Children: Gwladus Ddu (1206-1251) m[1] Reginald de Braose m[2] Ralph Mortimer Margaretm[1] John de Braose m[2] Walter de Clifford Angharad Dafydd (1208-1246)m Isabel de Braose Susanna Ellen (Helen)m[1] Malcolm, Earl of Fife m[2] Donald Married [2] Gwenllian of Brynffenigi Children: Helenm[1] John le Scot m[2] Robert de Quincey Gwenllian Mistress: Tangwystl ferch Llywarch Goch Child: Gruffydd (1196-1244) Graeme Wall My genealogy website: http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html Dave Utzinger posted on this based on the an article by William Addams Reitwiesner in The Genealogist, vol. 1, no. 1 (Spring 1980), pp. 80-95. This is his list: Descendants of Llywelyn ap Iorworth 1 Llywelyn ap Iorworth b: Abt. 1173 in Dolyddelan, Wales d: 11 April 1240 in Aberconway Abbey, Carnarvonshire, Wales . +Tangwystl verch Llwarch b: Abt. 1168 in of Rhos, Wales d: Bef. 1205 2 Gruffudd ap Llewellyn b: Bef. 1205 d: 01 March 1243/44 in London, ENG . +Senena ferch Caradog *2nd Wife of Gruffudd ap Llewellyn: . +Rhanullt *2nd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth: . +Joan Plantagenet b: Abt. 1191 d: 02 February 1236/37 in Aber Palace, Carnarvon, Wales 2 Elen verch Llywelyn b: in Gwynedd, Wales d: Bef. 24 October 1253 . +John of Scotland b: 1207 m: 1222 d: Abt. 06 June 1237 *2nd Husband of Elen verch Llywelyn: . +Robert de Quincey b: Abt. 1176 m: Aft. 06 June 1237 d: Abt. 1257 2 Dafydd ap Llywelyn b: Abt. 1208 d: 12 February 1245/46 in Aber . +Concubine *2nd Wife of Dafydd ap Llywelyn: . +Isabel de Braose b: Abt. 1215 m: Abt. 10 August 1230 d: Bef. 1248 *3rd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth: . +Unknown 2 Gwenllian of Wales d: 1281 . +William de Lacy 2 Angharad verch Llewelyn . +Maelgwn Fychan d: 1257 2 Tegwared y Baiswen . +Gwenllian ferch Ednyfed ap Cynwrig 2 Angharad verch Llywelyn . +Philip ap Ivor 2 Daughter verch Llywelyn . +William Caentwn 2 Gwladys Dhu of Wales b: Abt. 1194 in of Gwynedd, Wales d: 1251 in Windsor, BRK, ENG . +Reginald de Braose b: Abt. 1171 in Bramber, SSX, ENG m: 1215 d: Bet. 05 May 1227 - 09 June 1228 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales *2nd Husband of Gwladys Dhu of Wales: . +Ralph de Mortimer b: 1190 in of Wigmore, HEF, ENG m: 1230 d: 06 August 1246 in Wigmore, HRT, ENG 2 Margred verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1208 in Wales (North) d: 1268 . +John de Breuse b: Abt. 1198 m: Abt. 1220 d: Abt. 02 November 1232 in Bramber, SUS, ENG *2nd Husband of Margred verch Llewellyn: . +Walter III de Clifford b: Abt. 1186 in ENG m: Abt. 1232 in SSX, ENG d: Abt. 23 December 1263 in Clifford 2 Helen verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1234 in of Wales . +Malcolm MacDuff b: Bef. 1228 d: 1266 *2nd Husband of Helen verch Llewellyn: . +Donald de Mar d: Aft. 25 July 1297 | Ap LORWETH, Prince of Wales LLYWELYN FAWR (I45257)
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| 9857 | [royalfam.ged] He married Princess Victoria of Baden on September 20, 1881. She was the granddaughter of Sof ia of Sweden, and her marriage to Gustav V united the reigning Bernadotte dynasty with the fo rmer royal house of Vasa. | King of Sweden Oscar Gustaf Adolf V (I64618)
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| 9858 | [royalfam.ged] He married Princess Victoria of Baden on September 20, 1881. She was the granddaughter of Sof ia of Sweden, and her marriage to Gustav V united the reigning Bernadotte dynasty with the fo rmer royal house of Vasa. | Of Baden, Victoria (I64949)
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| 9859 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Austria, Archduke of Austria Otto Franz Joseph (I65343)
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| 9860 | [royalfam.ged] Here's how John van der Kiste tells it: During the night of 1 July 1694, K©œnigsmarck was seen to enter the Leineschloss Palace and g o to Sophia Dorotheas apartments. He never came out alive. What precisely happened that night wil l probably never be known, but the traditional version has it that he received a note in penci l left on a table in the sitting-room of his house in Hanover that afternoon, informing him that h e was summoned to meet Princess Sophia Dorotha in her private apartment at about 10 oclock that ni ght. The note purported to be hers but was in fact the work of Countess von Platen. That he did no t suspect it was a trap designed to lure him could be put down to his ignorance of how much hi s and the Princesss indiscretions had become the subject of gossip at court during his absence. Disguising himself in shabby clothes, he gave a prearranged signal under the window of her apartment, and she let him in. It was the first time she had seen him for three months, and s he told him that the note was a forgery. He told her that a carriage was ready to take them to safet y at Wolfenb©ottel, and she would have agreed to join him at once if it was not for the matter of s aying goodbye to her children. She would do so next morning, and asked him to return with his carri age at the same time on the evening of 2 July. Nearby Countess von Platen and her courtiers were lyi ng in wait. Her spies had kept her informed of the intended flight, and as soon as K©œnigsmarck had arrived, she went to the Electors chamber to inform him. With the assistance of four halberd iers, she said, she could catch the young lovers red-handed. To the scheme of capturing and arresti ng them, he gave his approval, and she hid the men in a chimney recess, locked all the doors ou t of the Princesss gallery except one near the chimney, and hid behind a curtain. When K©œnigsmarck tr ied to leave and found his way blocked, he realized what had happened. Outnumbered by four to one h e had no chance, but with the sword which he always carried he wounded three of them. However, they overpowered him and stabbed him to death, and as he lay dying the Countess, who had been watc hing with malicious glee, came and kicked him viciously in the mouth. Having witnessed his despatc h, she realized with dismay that the Elector had merely authorized her to bring the Count to justice , and she returned to his apartment panic-stricken. Though angry with her he knew that he was also implicated in the murder, and he authorized her to do what she could to suppress any trace o f the nights events. The halberiers were ordered to throw the body in the palace latrines, cover i t with quicklime and brick the wall up. They accomplished their mission silently and by dawn they we re all in their beds. An alternative reconstruction has the body placed in a sack, weighted with st ones, and thrown into the river. About 1/2 of the correspondance between Philip and Sophia survives today, having been sent t o his sister Aurora, who preserved it. The European Royal History Journal, Issue XV, February 2000, p. 9. van der Kiste, John, The Georgian Princesses, Sutton Publishing, Gloucestershire, England, 20 00, p. 23. | Konigsmarck, Philipp Christoff Von (I61342)
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| 9861 | [royalfam.ged] HM QE II is my (distant) cousin. My Jennings family was kicked out of the English Royal Fami ly and out of England early 1800's by a child king - and came to the US, ie., Ashtabula, Ohio . We are the Jennings family listed in various royal family trees. A book and a movie wer e made about us (and others) around the 1960's - these are currently unavailable. A lot of o fficial records about us have been destroyed, inorder to keep the crown were it is. We wer e members of the royal family for over five hundred years. Thanks for your interest, davida jennings@citynet.net | Jennings, Sarah (I62512)
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| 9862 | [royalfam.ged] http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=1846 February 4, 2004 What Are We Doing in Russia's Neighborhood? by Pat Buchanan Napoleon III, Emperor of France, saw his opportunity. With the United States sundered and convulsed in civil war, he would seize Mexico, impose a C atholic monarchy and block further expansion of the American republic. In 1863, a French army marched into Mexico City. In 1864, Maximilian, the brother of Austria n Emperor Franz Joseph, was crowned Emperor of Mexico. The French empire had returned to Nort h America a century after its expulsion in 1763. Secretary of State Seward did nothing until the Union armies had defeated the Confederacy. Th en, he called in Gen. John Schofield, who had wanted to lead an army of volunteers into Mexic o to drive the French out, and instructed him instead to go to Paris. "I want you to get you r legs under Napoleon's mahogany and tell him he must get out of Mexico," Seward told Schofie ld. To impress upon Napoleon that the Union was in earnest, President Johnson, at the urgin g of Grant and Sherman, sent Gen. Sheridan with 40,000 troops to the Rio Grande. Napoleon got the message. The French army headed for the boats, and Maximilian went befor e a Mexican firing squad. | Archduke Austria, Emperor of Mexico Maximiliano (I60182)
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| 9863 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Denmark, Anne-Marie of (I46613)
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| 9864 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Zizi%22_Lambrino | Lambrino, Joanna Marie Valentina (I47123)
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| 9865 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Casiraghi, Andrea (I65979)
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| 9866 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_II_of_Romania | Hohenzollern, King of Romania Carol II (I46575)
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| 9867 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecily_Neville | Neville, Lady Cecily (I67810)
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| 9868 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XV_of_Sweden | King of Sweden and Norway Karl XV (I44329)
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| 9869 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_IV_of_England From: royalancestry@msn.com (Douglas Richardson) A few days ago, I posted a list of the known illegitimate children of Edward IV, King of Engl and (died 1483). Since posting, I've been contacted by two newsgroup members each of whom ha s added a new potential illegitimate child of King Edward IV. On my own, I've found addition al sources for two of the previously identified illegitimate children. I've also found a ref erence to yet another alleged illegitimate daughter in a late visitation who reputedly married into the Musgrave family. I haven't included that child in the list below, as I haven't ye t confirmed that such a child and marriage occurred. If anyone has anything to add to the information below or possesses any information on a poss ible illegitimate daughter who married a Musgrave, please post that information here on the n ewsgroup or contact me at my e-mail address below. Many thanks to Peter Sutton and James Trabue for sharing their information with me. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - List of Illegitimate Children of King Edward IV Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by an unknown mistress, possibly Elizabeth Lucy: i. ELIZABETH PLANTAGENET, married before 1477 THOMAS LUMLEY, Knt., son and heir apparent of George Lumley, Knt., Lord Lumley, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Roger Thornton, Esq. They had four sons, Richard [Lord Lumley], John, George, and Roger, Esq., and three daughters, Anne (wife of Robert Ogle, 4th Lord Ogle), Sibyl (wife of William Hilton, Knt., de jure 9th Lord Hylton), and Elizabeth (wife of Robert Cresswell, Esq.). SIR THOMAS LUMLEY was living 27 Oct. 1495, and died prior to 1507. Descendants (not traced). [Note: Additional evidence of Elizabeth's parentage may be seen in the papal dispensation granted in 1489 for Elizabeth's son, Richard Lumley, to marry Anne Conyers, they being related in the [3rd and] 4th degree of kindred. A dispensation was needed for this marriage, as the two parties were both descended from Ralph Neville, K.G., 1st Earl of Westmorland, and his wife, Joan Beaufort (see Testamenta Eboracensia 3 (Surtees Soc., vol. 45) (1865): 355)]. Collins-Brydges, Peerage of England 3 (1812): 703 (citing MS. E. 6, f. 5, b. in Offic. Arm.). R. Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 139 (Lumley monument in Chester-le-Street, co. Durham church: " ... inde pater efficitur illius Thomae qui ex magni Regis Edovardi quarti filia naturali, Richardum susceperat ..."), 140 (monumental inscription at Chester-le-Street: "Sir Thomas Lumley, Knight, sonne of George Lord Lumley, maried Elizabeth, daughter naturel to Kinge Edwarde the fourth, and he died in the life of his father, and had issue Richard Lord Lumley") (Elizabeth's arms: 1. France and England; 2. a plain cross of Ulster; 3. as 2; 4. barry of six, on a chief three pallets, between two esquires' bastions, dexter and sinister, an inescutcheon Argent, Mortimer, over all a bar sinister), 162-164 (Lumley chart). Surtees Soc. 41 (1862): 27 (1530 Vis. Durham) (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas Lumley, son and heyre to George, maried Elisabeth, bastard doughter to Kyng Edward the iiijth"). R. Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 163-164. H.S.P. 16 (1881): 189-190 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas Lord Lomley son & heyr to George = Elsabeth bastard doughter to Kyng Edward the Fourth"). J. Foster, Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of the County Palatine of Durham (1887), pg. 216 (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas Lumley, son and heire = Elizabeth, bastard dau. of Edward IV"). C.P. 7 (1929): 30 (sub Hylton); 8 (1932): 274 (sub Lumley); 10 (1945): 33-34. TAG 50 (1974): 81-86. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle Letters (1981) [citing Harleian MS. 4033, f. 21 (23) v; Leland's Itinerary VI, f. 63]. Chris Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval England (1984), pp. 160-161,179. Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by a mistress, Elizabeth Wayte: i. ARTHUR PLANTAGENET (otherwise ARTHUR WAYTE), K.G., King’s Spear, Esquire of the Body, Sheriff of Hampshire, Vice-Admiral of England, Trier of Petitions in Parliament, Governor of Calais, Warden of the Cinque Ports, Privy Councillor, born say 1475 (presumed to be “my Lord the Bastard” mentioned in an Exchequer account dated 1477, first occurs as an adult in 1501). He married (1st) 12 Nov. 1511 ELIZABETH GREY, suo jure Baroness Lisle, widow of Edmund Dudley, Esq. (beheaded 18 Aug. 1510), and daughter and heiress of Edward Grey, Knt., Viscount Lisle, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter of John Talbot, Knt., Viscount Lisle. They had three daughters, Frances (wife of John Basset and Thomas Monke), Elizabeth (wife of Francis Jobson, Knt), and Bridget (wife of William Carden, Knt.). In 1514 he was captain of the Vice-Admiral's ship "Trinity Sovereign." He attended the King at the Field of Cloth of Gold in 1520. In consequence of his marriage, he was created 25 Apr. 1523 Viscount Lisle. In 1528 he purchased the manors of Segenworth, Chark, Lee, Sutton, West Stratton, etc., Hampshire from his cousin, John Wayte, Esq., of Titchfield. Arthur married (2nd) in 1529 Honor Grenville, widow of John Basset, Knt. (died 31 Jan. 1522/9), and daughter of Thomas Grenville, Knt., by his 1st wife, Isabel, daughter of Otes Gilbert, Knt. They had no issue. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London on suspicion of treason 19 May 1540. SIR ARTHUR PLANTAGENET, Viscount Lisle, died there 3 Mar. 1541/2. His widow, Honor, was buried at Logan, Cornwall 30 Apr. 1566. Modern descendants (not traced). J. Burke, General & Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages ... Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance (1831), pp. 433,513-514. G.F. Beltz, Memorials of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (1841), pg. clxxii. H.S.P. 2 (1870): 74-75 (1619 Vis. Leicester) (Gray pedigree: "Elizab. [Gray] Nupta Edm. Dudley postea Arthur Plantagenet"); 16 (1881): 308-310 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Talbot pedigree: "Elsabeth [Talbot] doughter & sole heyre [1] = Edmond Dudley on of the Prevy Consell to Kyng Henry 7th., [2]= Arthur Plantagenet bastard son to Edward IV. 2 husband"). J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the County of Devon (1895), pp. 46-47,569. D.N.B. 15 (1909): 1285-1287 (biog. of Arthur Plantagenet). List of Early Chan. Proc. 5 (1912): 288,358,465,472.473; 6 (1922): 109,134. C.L. Scofield, Life and Reign of Edward the Fourth 2 (1923): 56,161. C.P. 8 (1932): 63-68 (sub Lisle). Cal. of Ancient Deeds - Series B Pt. 3 (List & Index Soc., vol. 113) (1975): B.10780, B.12180. Ancient Deeds Series BB (List & Index Soc., vol. 137) (1977), pp. 80-81,83,90. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle Letters 2 (1981): 63 (Arthur Plantagenet styled "cousin" by Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury); 1 (1981): 481, 4{1981): 140 (instances of Henry Pole, Lord Montagu, styled "cousin" to Arthur Plantagenet). Exchequer Ancient Deeds - DD Series (List & Index Soc., vol. 200) (1983), pp. 193,207. C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval England (1984), pp. 158,161-174. Alleged illegitimate children of Edward IV of England, by an unknown mistress (or mistresses), _____: i. GRACE PLANTAGENET, said to be present in 1492 on the funeral barge of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, widow of King Edward IV. C. Ross, Edward IV (1974), pg. 316, foonote 2 (citing BM Arundel MS. 26, ff. 29v-30v). C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval England (1984), pp. 158,161-174. ii. _____ PLANTAGENET (daughter), married (as his 1st wife) JOHN AUDLEY (or TUCHET), younger son of John Audley (or Tuchet), Knt., 6th Lord Audley, Lord Treasurer of England, by Anne, daughter of Thomas Echingham, Knt. They had no issue. Collections for a History of Staffordshire n.s. 12 (1909): 229. MS. pedigree of Audley family dated 1618 on file at the William SaltCollection at the William Salt Library in Stafford, England. (These citations kindly provided by Peter Sutton). iii. MARY PLANTAGENET, married after 1485 (as his 2nd wife) HENRY HARMAN, of Ellam (in Crayford), Kent, Clerk of the Crown to King Henry VII, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Harman. HENRY HARMAN left a will dated 1501, proved 1502 (P.C.C., 15 Blamyr), naming his deceased wife, Agnes, his living wife, Mary, and eleven children, George, William, Thomas, Roger, John, Henry, Robert, Elizabeth (wife of _____ Sparke), Alice, Beatrice, and Anne. The maternity of the children is uncertain, but at least the two youngest sons were by Henry Harman's last wife, Mary, as indicated by Henry's will. Misc. Gen. et Her. 4th ser. 2 (1908): 227-228 (Harman pedigree) (no identification of wives). H.S.P. 74 (1923): 61-62 (1574 Vis. Kent) (Harman pedigree: "Henry Harman Clarke of ye Crowne vnto H: 7 ... This man [Henry Harman] was H: 7 man to whome he gaue the clarkeship of the Crowne and with all gaue him the Crest belowe*, depick[t]ed one his armes which Crist was giuen him after hee had maried with E: 4 daughter") (The latter citation kindly supplied by James Trabue). Below is a list of the illegitimate children of King Edward IV of England taken from variety of sources. The list includes no new names, but I've commented on additional evidence which appears to prove the parentage of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Lumley. Gary Boyd Roberts's useful book, RD 500, indicates that there are American descendants of Elizabeth Lumley. There seems to be confusion in surviving records between King Edward IV's mistresses, Dame Elizabeth Lucy and Elizabeth Wayte. I suspect the two women were separate and distinct individuals. King Edward IV is alleged to have had issue by Elizabeth Lucy prior to his marriage to Queen Elizabeth Wydeville in 1464. I presume that issue was King Edward IV's bastard daughter, Elizabeth Lumley, who married in or before 1477. Elizabeth Wayte's son, Arthur, on the other hand, doesn't occur in records as an adult until 1501 and didn't marry until 1511. This suggests a rather wide gap in ages between the two bastards, Elizabeth Lumley and Arthur Plantagenet. My best guess is that Elizabeth Lumley was born say 1460/2 and that Arthur Plantagenet was born say 1475. If anyone has any corrections or additions to the list below, I'd appreciate it if they would post them here on the newsgroup. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com | Plantagenet, King Edward IV of England and France Edward IV (I67515)
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| 9870 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Wolff | Lupescu, Elena (I44363)
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| 9871 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Hanover, Prince Ernst August of (I65996)
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| 9872 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_August_of_Hanover%2C_3rd_Duke_of_Cumberland He had six children. | Hanover, Duke Ernest Augustus of Cumberland (I45873)
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| 9873 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois%2C_Duke_of_Anjou In 1581, arrangements began to be made for his marriage to Elizabeth I of England. Alen©'on wa s in fact the only one of Elizabeth's many suitors to court her in person. He was twenty-si x and Elizabeth was forty-seven. Despite the age gap, the two soon became very close, Elizabe th dubbing him her "frog". She planned to marry him, and would have, had the English people n ot been so adamantly opposed to the match. Crushed, Elizabeth bid her "frog" farewell, and Al en©'on continued on to the Netherlands. | of France, Hercule Francois (I59242)
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| 9874 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_IX_of_Denmark | Of Denmark, King of Denmark Frederik IX (I64992)
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| 9875 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV_of_the_United_Kingdom | Hanover, Princess Charlotte Augusta (I44744)
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| 9876 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Crown Prince Harald (I65897)
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| 9877 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VI_of_England | King of England Henry VI (I65402)
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| 9878 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_III_of_Belgium From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Leopold III King of the Belgians Leopold III, Leopold Philippe Charles Albert Meinrad Hubertus Marie Miguel (November 3, 190 1 - September 25, 1983) reigned as King of the Belgians from 1934 until 1951, when he abdicat ed in favour of his Heir Apparent, his son Baudouin. Leopold III was born in Brussels as Prince Leopold of Belgium, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Goth a, Duke of Saxony, and succeeded to the throne of Belgium on February 23, 1934 on the death o f his father, King Albert I of Belgium. Crown Prince Leopold, just a teenager, fought as a private during World War I with the 12th B elgian Regiment. At the end of the War, in 1919, the Crown Prince Leopold was enrolled at St . Anthony Seminary in Santa Barbara, California. In Stockholm, on November 4, 1926, he married Princess Astrid Sophie Louise Thyra, Princess o f Sweden who became Queen Astrid of the Belgians. She was born in Stockholm on November 17, 1 905, the youngest daughter of Prince Charles of Sweden and Princess Ingeborg of Denmark. | King of Belgium Leopold III (I46751)
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| 9879 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_de_Valois | Valois, Margaret of (I58200)
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| 9880 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Coste, Nicole (I59177)
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| 9881 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Elena_of_Romania | Princess of Romania Helen (I47125)
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| 9882 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Oldenburg, Crown Princess Irene of Greece (I66256)
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| 9883 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Of Romania, Maria (I65362)
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| 9884 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Haraldsen, Crown Princess Sonja (I65706)
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| 9885 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Duda, Radu (I66304)
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| 9886 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard%2C_Duke_of_York | Plantagenet, Duke of York Richard (I44086)
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| 9887 | [royalfam.ged] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyra_of_Denmark | Princess of Denmark Thyra Amalie Karoline Charlotte (I45903)
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| 9888 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Shand, Camilla Rosemary (I66005)
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| 9889 | [royalfam.ged] http://history.vineyard.net//allen/Web%20Cards/WC12/WC12_442.HTM | Queen of England ELFEDA (I60464)
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| 9890 | [royalfam.ged] http://tudorhistory.org/people/eyork/ | PLANTAGENET, Lady of York, Queen of England ELIZABETH (I67513)
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| 9891 | [royalfam.ged] http://worldroots.com/brigitte/famous/s/spenceralthorpindex.htm | Spencer, Earl of Spencer Edward John VIII (I45753)
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| 9892 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Astor.html | Astor, Pauline (I63817)
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| 9893 | At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. | Astor, William Backhouse IV (I64068)
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| 9894 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Battenberg.html | Von Hauke, Princess Julia of Battenberg (I46475)
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| 9895 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Leiningen.html | Leiningen, Emich Zu (I65894)
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| 9896 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Leiningen.html | Leiningen, Earl-Emichzu (I65902)
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| 9897 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Leiningen.html | Prince of Leiningen Emich (I65959)
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| 9898 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.bartleby.com/65/ch/Charles10Swe.html | Johansson, King of Sweden Carl X (I60422)
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| 9899 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.biography.ms/Grand_Duchess_Olga_Alexandrovna_of_Russia.html | Romanov, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna (I44870)
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| 9900 | [royalfam.ged] http://www.byu.edu/ipt/projects/middleages/People/IVAN.html | Czar of Russia Ivan IV (I62320)
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