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10001 [royalfam.ged]

There is a probably correction to the parentage of Hyacinthe Gabrielle Roland (a great grea t grandmother of the Queen Mother), who appears at: http://www.shamema.com/pafg428.htm#17685
Hugh Farmar, in "A Regency Elopement", pp.169-171 (1969), quotes correspondence indicating th at Hyacinthe was not the daughter of her mother's husband, but was the product of an affair w ith a cavalry officer named Christopher Alexander Fagan:
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/vol9.shtml#mornington

Chris Phillips 
Roland, Hyacinthe Gabrielle (I63781)
 
10002 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Windsor, Prince Charles Philip Arthur George (I64589)
 
10003 [royalfam.ged]

There is an entry in the /Patent Rolls of the Reign of Henry III/
[1225-1232] (London, 1903), p. 230 (m. 11) that might suggest an area of
future research regarding this Clementia. This entry also provides evidence
for the existence of Susanna, daughter of Llywelyn and Joan.

-Robert Battle 
Fawr, Susanna (I58889)
 
10004 [royalfam.ged]

There was never any question of Gundred being an illegitimate daughter of William I, but rath er it was a case of a fraudulent claim that she was a legitimate daughter. The reason peopl e used to think that Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror was because the monks o f Lewes forged some charters which stated that. But I don't think anyone now seriously mainta ins that these charters are authentic.

Gundred is known to have been a sister of Gerbod, who was briefly earl of Chester under Willi am the Conqueror. It's clear they were members of a Flemish family who were advocates of St B ertin's Abbey in St Omer, and who held Oosterzele and Scheldewindeke, although the genealog y isn't altogether clear.

Chris Phillips

Gundred was a sister of Gerbod the Fleming, earl of Chester, and possibly a
daughter of Gerbod, hereditary advocate of the abbey of St. Bertin at St.
Omer. Many sources name her as the daughter of William the Conqueror and
his wife Matilda, and she has also been put forth as a daughter or
stepdaughter of William the Conqueror. This, however, was shown to be false
many years ago. She died in childbirth.

David C. Douglas contends in "William the Conqueror: The Norman Impact Upon
England" (Berkeley: Univ of Calif Press, 1964): "The view once held that
Matilda was already married [to Gerbod] when William sought her hand, and
was then the mother of a daughter, Gundrada, later the wife of William de
Warenne, has now been conclusively disproved by the researches of Chester
Waters and Sir Charles Clay. There is no reason to suppose that Gundrada
was the daughter of either William or Matilda."

DD says: "Sister of Gerbod the Fleming,advocate of Saint-Bertin and earl of
Chester in 1070, and Frederick. Wife of William I de Warenne. She died in
childbirth on 27 May 1085 and was buried in Lewes priory (Mon. Ang. v,12).
EYC viii,pp. 6-7; A. J. Farrington, 'A note on Gherbod the Fleming, Earl of
Chester', Journal of the Chester Archaeological Society li (1984)."

Hope this helps. Polly Zashin

PLM: There is some doubt in my mind, however. Per your earlier assistance to
me; I do now have "The Chartulary of the Priory of St. Pancras of Lewes",
vol. I, ed. L. F. Salzman, and published by the Sussex Record Society in
1032. There is a lengthy charter by William Warrene nearly six pages in
length; so I will not quote it's entirety, but this bit is curious.

Page 3:

"..., I have given for the welfare of my soul and that of Gundrada my wife
and for the soul of my lord King William who brought me into England and by
whose license I caused the monks to come and who confirmed my former gift,
and for the welfare of my lady Queen Maud the mother of my wife and for the
welfare of my lord King William his son after whose coming to England I made
this charter and who made me Earl of Surrey,..." UNQ

PLM: It is quite clear from this charter, that Gundrada is the daughter of
Queen Maud, and the lack of a reference to William I being the father of
Gundrada is highly significant. If I were to rely solely on this evidence, I
would have to conclude that Gundrada was NOT the daughter of William I at
all.

People have referred to forged charters from Lewes, but what is the basis of
these assertions, and which references discuss these "supposedly proven
forgeries"? The premise of such an accusation appears to be up side down, in
relation to the above charter. It seems illogical to forge a document that
makes Gundrada the daughter of the Queen, as opposed to the King of England;
which would essentially diminish her social standing, instead of elevating
it, as most forgeries tend to do?

Cheers,
Phil 
FitzWILLIAM, Princess of England GUNDRED (I58435)
 
10005 [royalfam.ged]

Three children were born to Princess Antoinette and her lover 1954.

Her second husband, Jean-Charles Rey was married to her from 1961 to 1973.

Her third husband was John Gilpin, a noted British ballet dancer, whom she married in 1983 an d who died two months later. 
Princess of Monaco Antoinette Louise Grimaldi (I65992)
 
10006 [royalfam.ged]

Victoria, queen of Great Britain and Ireland (r. 1837-1901), the longest-reigning monarch i n English history, established the monarchy as a respected and popular institution while it w as irrevocably losing its place as an integral part of the British governing system.

Born in Kensington Palace, London, on May 24, 1819, Victoria was the only child of Edward, du ke of Kent and son of George III, and Princess Victoria, daughter of the duke of Saxe-Coburg . Emerging from a lonely, secluded childhood to take the throne on the death of her uncle, Wi lliam IV, Victoria displayed a personality marked by strong prejudices and awillful stubbornn ess. She was strongly attached to the Whig prime minister Lord Melbourne; after he resigned i n 1839, Sir Robert Peel, his would-be successor, suggested that she dismiss the Whig ladies o f her court. Victoria, however, refused. In part because of this "bed chamber crisis," Melbou rne resumed office for two more years.

Victoria and her court were greatly transformed by her marriage to her first cousin, Prince A lbert of Saxe-Coburg, in 1840. Although her name now designates a supposedly prudish age, i t was Albert who made a point of straitlaced behavior, and introduced a strict decorum in cou rt. He also gave a more conservative tinge to Victoria's politics, leading her to become clos e to Peel. The couple had nine children. Victoria populated most of the thrones of Europe wit h her descendants. Among her grandchildren were Emperor William II of Germany and Alexandra , consort of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia.

Albert taught Victoria the need for hard work if she was to make her views felt in the cabine t, and during the prince's lifetime Victoria did, by insistently interjecting her opinions, f orce the ministers to take them into account. Opposing the policy of Lord Palmerston of encou raging democratic government on the Continent, for example, she was partly responsible for hi s departure as foreign secretary in 1851. She also helped form cabinets. Her political import ance was based, however, upon the temporarily factionalized state of Commons between 1846 an d 1868, when royal intervention was needed to help glue together majoritycoalitions.

Always prone to self-pity, Victoria fully indulged her grief at Albert's death in 1861. She r emained in mourning until her own death, making few public appearances and spending most of e ach year on the Isle of Wight and in the Scottish Highlands, where her closest companion wa s a dour Scottish servant, John Brown. Her popularity declined as a result, and republican se ntiment appeared during the late 1860s.

Victoria, however, regained the people's admiration when she resumed her determined efforts t o steer public affairs. She won particular esteem for defending the popular imperialist polic ies of the Conservative ministries of Benjamin Disraeli, who flattered her relentlessly and m ade her empress of India in 1876. Conversely, she flayed William E. Gladstone, the Liberal pr ime minister, whom she intensely disliked, for ostensibly weakening the empire. Although Vict oria also attacked Gladstone for encouraging democratic trends, the celebrations of her golde n and diamond jubilees in 1887 and 1897 demonstrated her great popularity.

In Victoria's later career, her attempts to influence government decisions ceased to carry si gnificant weight. The Reform Act of 1867, by doubling the electorate, strengthened party orga nization and eliminated the need for a mediator--the monarch--among factions in Commons.

Victoria died on Jan. 22, 1901. She was succeeded by her son, Edward VII.Her letters have bee n published in three series (1907; 1926-28; 1930-32). 
Hanover, Queen of England Victoria (I44300)
 
10007 [royalfam.ged]

You have asked the $64,000 question. You have the two Helens wrong. The Helen
that married [1] John le Scot and m[2] Robert de Quincey was the daughter of
Joan. The other Helen is not a proven daughter of Llywelyn at all.

You have assigned Gwladys to Joan instead of Tangwystl -- and I think that is
fair. It is 50/50 at best that you are right -- and with Joan's lands going
to Gwladys family and Gwladys dying at Windsor -- and the Mortimer genealogy
going through Joan to William the Conqueror in a 14th century manuscript
tradition, I would say the weight of the slim facts favor Joan over the Welsh
mistress. Since you have to enter a mother, I would keep it that way. I will
change my personal database from Tangwystl to Joan on the basis of this
discussion.

From: KHF333@aol.com

Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales, and his lawful wife, Joan, had several legitimat e children, among them being Ellen, wife successively of John of Scotland, Earl of Chester an d Huntingdon, and Robert de Quincy, Knt. Ellen's place as a legitimate daughter of Joan is p roven by an entry in Calendar of Close Rolls, 1234-1237 (1908), pp. 538-539, where Countess E llen is styled "our niece" [nepte nostra] by Henry III, King of England.

Recently, however, I encountered further evidence which supports blood kinship between Counte ss Ellen and the English royal family. Ellen had two surviving daughters by her marriage t o Robert de Quincy, one being Hawise de Quincy, wife of Baldwin Wake. The record below state s specifically that Hawise de Quincy was of the "consanguinity" (bloodline) of King Edward I:

"Date: 18 Feb. 1282

Order [by King Edward I] to the sheriff of Lincoln to levy Ð100 from the goods late of Baldwi n Wak, deceased, by view of Aubrey de Wintelbiry, and deliver the same to Hawise, late his wi fe, for the expenses of his burial, and to levy also Ð40 therefrom by view of the same Aubre y and deliver them to her by reason of her consanguinity."

[Calendar of Fine Rolls, 1 (1911): 159].

Hawise de Quincy, wife of Baldwin Wake, and King Edward I were first cousins first removed, t hey both being descendants of King John.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
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LLEWELYN, ELEN VERCH (I67654)
 
10008 [royalfam.ged]

Do we have a date in 1203 as to when Joan was sent to England from Normandy? This would be interesting and possibly enlightening - John himself was in Normandy during most of that year, in Le Mans in January but then
moving into Normandy near Argentan and not leaving Normandy (although this time, for good) on 5 December. As recorded by Giraldus Cambrensis and the author of the Histoire de Guillaume le Marechal, John was clearly in the process of losing hold of Normandy during that year, so it would seem Joan's relocation to England was part of the overall process of collapse.

As to the issue of Henry I's issue, it may be that he thought the alliances of his illegitimate brood would not complicate the matter of succession - however, immediate prior history does not mesh well with this presumption. The 70-year period preceding Henry I's death involved several problematic dynastic problems:

A. The forceful taking of the English throne by a bastard (his own father);

B. The lengthy contest for the throne between two brothers (his own, being Robert 'Curthose ' and William 'Rufus')

C. His own acquisition of the English throne on the death of William 'Rufus', in place of his absent elder brother Robert, in 1100 [the resolution of their claims not being decided except on the field of battle in 1106, at Tinchebrai].

Henry I's evident desire was for the succession of his son (or at least one of his sons), and failing that, the succession of his daughter Matilda. He knew full well, little was guaranteed as to the English succession, else he would not have required baronial agreement to Matilda's succession before his death. Do we know, in the event of Matilda's death, that he would not prefer the accession of his son Robert (the bastard known
as Robert de Caen, the Earl of Gloucester) over any available nephew ?

Best regards,
John P. Ravilious
Therav3@aol.com

royal92.ged, Date of Import: Feb 10, 2006, lists May 18, 1152 Bordeaux, France as the marriage information for Elbeonore and Henry. 
PLANTAGENET, King of England HENRY CURTMANTLE II (I59168)
 
10009 [tudors.ged]

(privately) 
Family: King of England Henry Tudor, VII / Jane Seymour (F16365)
 
10010 [tudors.ged]

(secretly) 
Family: Baron Seymour of Sudeley Thomas Seymour / Catherine Parr (F16430)
 
10011 [tudors.ged]

Henry afterwards repudiated Catherine 
Family: Duke of Suffolk Henry Grey / Catherine Fitzalan (F16381)
 
10012 [tudors.ged]

Henry Stewart is said to have married firstly "the Lady Leslie", who must have been divorced before March 1527/8, in which month he married Margaret Tudor 
Stewart, 1st Lord Methven Henry (I58351)
 
10013 [tudors.ged]

Her body was removed in January 1538, apparently to the parish church of Titchfield, Hampshire 
Grey, Baroness Lisle in her own Elizabeth (I44288)
 
10014 [tudors.ged]

His body was removed in 1536 to St David's Cathedral.
 
Tudor, Earl of Richmond Edmund (I58429)
 
10015 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate
without issue
Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
Fitzroy, Earl of Nottingham and Du Henry (I44176)
 
10016 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate
without male issue
The name of Arthur Plantagenet's mother is unknown. She is said by some to be the "Lady Elizabeth Lucy", by others the notorious Jane Shore, and by others one Elizabeth Waite, he himself being at first known as Arthur Waite. 
Plantagenet, Viscount Lisle Arthur (I44286)
 
10017 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Stewart, Catherine (I44187)
 
10018 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Stewart, Earl of Moray James (I44190)
 
10019 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Stewart, Margaret (I44194)
 
10020 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Stewart, Janet (I44200)
 
10021 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Valois, Henry of (I44203)
 
10022 [tudors.ged]

Illegitimate 
Stewart, Alexander (I61887)
 
10023 [tudors.ged]

in her father's lifetime and without issue 
Holand, Anne (I44083)
 
10024 [tudors.ged]

in his father's lifetime, without issue
Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
Tudor, Prince of England, Prince of Wales Arthur (I63401)
 
10025 [tudors.ged]

in his father's lifetime[King Penrose Family.GED]

[WilliamValentineKingAncestry.ged]

W Betham: Genealogical Tables Tab 641
M L Call: The Royal Ancestry Bible Vol 1 Chart 606 
Stanley, Lord Strange George (I44119)
 
10026 [tudors.ged]

Later removed to St Mary's church, Bury St Edmunds 
Tudor, Mary (I36368)
 
10027 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website
[royalfam.ged]

The change between Stewart and Stuart took place when Mary, Queen of Scots married the Dauph in, later Francois II of France. The French spelled her surname "Stuart", and when she return ed, a widow, to Scotland, after 13 years in France, she kept the spelling, which her variou s half-siblings and cousins gradually adopted. She married one of the cousins, so her son wa s also a Stuart.

Jean Coeur de Lapin
atsarisborn@hotmail.com 
Stewart, Queen of Scots Mary (I35078)
 
10028 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
Cleves, Anne of (I44120)
 
10029 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
De Medici, Catherine (I44213)
 
10030 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
Tudor, Queen Mary I Mary (I60077)
 
10031 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
Tudor, Queen Elizabeth I Elizabeth (I66329)
 
10032 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website 
BEAUFORT, Countess of Richmond MARGARET (I66901)
 
10033 [tudors.ged]

Link to Marilee Cody's "Tudor England" website[royalfam.ged]

According to contemporary records, Queen Elizabeth I of England (died
1603) was related to King Henry IV of France (died 1610) [Reference:
Thomas Rymer, Foedera 16 (1727): 20 (Henry IV, King of France, styled
"cousin")].

Were Queen Elizabeth I and King Henry IV related in the 5th degree at
least on one side? The answer: Yes, twice, in fact. Below please
find two charts which show their common descent from the French royal
family and also from the Counts of Saint Pol. In both instances,
Queen Elizabeth I and King Henry IV are 4th cousins, once removed.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

I. Descent from Charles VI, King of France:

Charles VI, King of France
___________________/__________________
/ /
Charles VII, King of France Katherine of France
/ =Owen Tudor
/ /
Madeleine of France Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond
= Gaston de Foix /
/ /
Catherine de Foix Henry VII, King of England
=Jean d'Albret, Count of /
Penthievre /
/ /
Henri II, King of Navarre Henry VIII, King Of England
/ /
Jeanne d'Albret, Queen of Navarre Elizabeth I, Queen of England
=Antoine de Bourbon
/
Henry IV, King of France

II. Descent from Pierre de Luxembourgh, Count of Saint Pol:

Pierre de Luxembourgh
Count of Saint Pol
__________________________/________
/ /
Louis de Luxembourgh Jacquette de Luxembourgh
Count of Luxembourgh = Richard Wydeville, Earl Rivers
/ /
Pierre de Luxembourgh Elizabeth Wydeville
Count of Saint Pol = Edward IV, King of England
/ /
Marie de Luxembourgh Elizabeth Plantagenet
= Francois de Bourbon = Henry VII, King of England
/ /
Charles de Bourbon Henry VIII, King of England
Duke of Vendome /
/ /
Antoine de Bourbon Elizabeth I, Queen of England
King of Navarre
/
Henry IV, King of France 
TUDOR, King Henry VII HENRY VII (I44678)
 
10034 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King Edward IV of England and France Edward Plantagenet, IV / (F5729)
 
10035 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of England Henry Tudor, VII / Mary Boleyn (F16358)
 
10036 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of England Henry Tudor, VII / Elizabeth Blount (F16359)
 
10037 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of Scotland James Stuart, IV / Margaret Boyd (F16462)
 
10038 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of Scotland James Stuart, IV / Janet Kennedy (F16468)
 
10039 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of Scotland James Stuart, IV / Margaret Drummond (F16475)
 
10040 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King of Scotland James Stuart, IV / Isabella Stewart (F16482)
 
10041 [tudors.ged]

Not married 
Family: King Henry II of France Henry of Valois, II / Janet Stewart (F16485)
 
10042 [tudors.ged]

Of her four children only one lived to be baptised 
Family: Duke of Norfolk Thomas Howard / Anne (F16562)
 
10043 [tudors.ged]

Parentage doubtful 
Carey, Baron Hunsdon Henry (I44221)
 
10044 [tudors.ged]

Parentage doubtful 
Carey, Mary Catherine (I66175)
 
10045 [tudors.ged]

Removed later to Framlingham 
Anne (I58033)
 
10046 [tudors.ged]

The existence of such a child is claimed in pedigrees at the College of Arms, and possibly confirmed by a reference in the will of Lady Katherine Gordon, wife of Perkin Warbeck, to her "Cosyn Margarett Keymes" 
Kyme, Margaret (I44230)
 
10047 [tudors.ged]

unmarried and in his father's lifetime 
Brandon, Earl of Lincoln Henry (I44092)
 
10048 [tudors.ged]

without issue
Subsequently removed to the Abbey of the Minoresses in the City of London 
Mowbray, Baroness Mowbray and Baro Anne (I44312)
 
10049 [tudors.ged]

without issue 
Cotton, Mary (I44137)
 
10050 [tudors.ged]

without issue 
Grey, Lady Mary (I44145)
 

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